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Wycombe v Oxford kick off 1930 Sky sports football.

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MarcoG said:
Wasn't particularly bothered who went up out of these two, after reading the last fifteen pages of absolutely bat mental shite I'm glad that Wycombe won.
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Me too. Wycombe would have tonked us next season. Not that Oxford United will be much easier. If we get 2 points from them we will have done ok.
 

SPUFF said:
Struggling to recall/give a shit but what % of the season were we in play off spots for?
Id guess? At many points we’d have qualified had it been paused then. Like someone said, very well imo, it was like a daft game or musical chairs.
We’ve no idea how we’d have fared after the long break but ill always be a little bitter over this, feck knows how posh feel! Or tranmere!
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Couldn’t agree more, I’m sure Wycombe will miraculously find a way financially to start the new season if it starts behind closed doors.
 
0321safc said:
I can, but that’s irrelevant. We’ve been told all our lives watching football.
‘Never over till the last ball has been kicked in the last game’
‘It’s all about points on the board’
Don’t look too much at games in hand’
‘Plenty of twists and turns at the end of the season’

the whole fundamentals of football have been turned on their head. Throughout 2018-2019 we would have been promoted under this method. 3 points off 2nd and the team still in 2nd to play.
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There were plenty of twists and turns, and the last ball was kicked last night, signalling Wycombe's promotion.
 
SPUFF said:
Struggling to recall/give a shit but what % of the season were we in play off spots for?
Id guess? At many points we’d have qualified had it been paused then. Like someone said, very well imo, it was like a daft game or musical chairs.
We’ve no idea how we’d have fared after the long break but ill always be a little bitter over this, feck knows how posh feel! Or tranmere!
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I'd say, off the top of my head, from the start of the season till the middle of January , if the season stopped at any point and PPG was applied we would have missed out. We were 15th in December.

Went on a tremdous run from January to mid february, so maybe the last 4 weeks of that run, plus going into start of March we could have went 2nd with a win a Coventry IIRC, then it tapered off.

So from August to March, a total of about 30ish weeks, my guess would be 7-10 weeks where PPG would have had us top 6. Not good enough . Simple as that
 
Wycombe are up there as one of the worst visiting performance at the stadium of light in the 23 years since we played ajax.
Come on sunderland, get out of this horrible division. A bit of consistency and bottle needed.
 
tunstallhill said:
No, one poster is

That's the scarey thing, it's takes one daft poster to write nonsense like this conspiracy bollocks on this thread (it's one poster) and before long any fans of other clubs (Barnsley, Scunthorpe and Oxford on this thread alone) will be coming out with patter like 'all Sunderland fans think it's an EFL conspiracy to keep them in L1' , even tho it's just one numpty saying it.

We aren't, and haven't been all season, good enough to deserve a playoff place had the season played out, unless we miraculously turned into a different team for Aprils games.

It's alright saying that we were '3 points off second' , but that is discounting the other 5 or 6 teams that were all within touching distance. We needed to suddenly find form out of the blue, coupled with at least 3 of the teams around us suddenly going into shit form, just to finish 6th, never mind 2nd. It was never going to happen. Watch footage of our last 4 games for evidence. Or watch footage of the whole season ..we are dire
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Excellent post.

We'd just been beaten off a team who hadn't won in their previous 19 games or something, we turned up, rolled over and got our belliies tickled
 
Sidewinder2 said:
Excellent post.

We'd just been beaten off a team who hadn't won in their previous 19 games or something, we turned up, rolled over and got our belliies tickled
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If that game had been rearranged for a week later and hadn't been played yet, or we got a point, I think that would have been enough to see us into 6th. Scary how poor this league is
 
tunstallhill said:
If that game had been rearranged for a week later and hadn't been played yet, or we got a point, I think that would have been enough to see us into 6th. Scary how poor this league is
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I just hate the "it's the leagues fault" , it isn't we threw it away what was it two points from 12 pre lockdown, f***ing hell man.

If only we hadn't bottles it big time last season.
 
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Sidewinder2 said:
I just hate the "it's the leagues fault" , it isn't we threw it away what was it two points from 12 pre lockdown, f***ing hell man.

If only we hadn't bottles it big time last season.
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Yep . It was a stupid way to end the season by the EFL, feel for Tranmere and posh and the likes, but there isn't a single molecule of my existence that feels SAFC were hard done by. I had no faith that we would have got a playoff spot never mind been promoted , if the season had played out.
 
We will never know if we would have gone up over a full season. But one thing is certain no team goes into the opening game expecting to be denied with a ton of points to play for. I do believe Coventry would have gone up as champions however I doubt Rotherham would have gone up in second place. Peterborough would have caught them up and taken it. As for us, well I do think we would have finished in the top six, and then who knows...
 
Those stats 😂 When has anyone ever used ‘width per passing sequence’ as a tool to review a teams performance? If you started looking for daft stats like that, you could probably find 5 that Wycombe were first in and Oxford were 23rd.

‘Passes on a Tuesday in 23 degree weather’

I absolutely hate it when teams are lauded as playing attractive football because they pass it sideways/backwards amongst their defenders for 90 minutes. Teams let people do that because they offer a tiny attacking threat - possession stats should only really count or become relevant when the possession is in the opponent’s final third.
 
MarcoG said:
Wasn't particularly bothered who went up out of these two, after reading the last fifteen pages of absolutely bat mental shite I'm glad that Wycombe won.
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I didn't even realise it was on until I read twitter as I was going to bed and saw the posts from the Sunderland fan groups.
Wycombe did what was required, made themselves hard to beat, they won't win any prizes for playing football of the year, but like the above post I am not bothered.

Lockdown and these chancers have made me apathetic.

That will change once crowds are back in, as you don't choose to support Sunderland, Sunderland chooses you.
 
.........and that concludes League One and Two.
No conspiracy, poor standard of referees in both leagues, an unforeseen event disrupting a normal season.
There will be winners, losers and what if scenarios but it’s done and time to move on.

Bigger challenges right now regarding financial survival for many clubs and no decision on when the season will start or whether fans will be able to attend the matches.

It’s been awful, even for a Supporter of a club that was crowned league two champions on a weighted system.
We have lost out on significant revenue and this will have a impact on our planning for the coming season. None of us are in a decent place right now.
 
We were not good enough in my huumble opinion, however Wycombe should not have been anywhere near the play offs. Hoof ball wins in this division. We need a manager who endorses hoofball,,,,oh hold on
 
Wycombe at the time of the season pausing were in a hopeless state as far as promotion was concerned. Drifting downwards and playing horrible football.

However they got a lucky break and took their chances. I for one would have preferred them in our division next year rather than Oxford or Portsmouth.

I am also relieved that Ainsworth bottled it when he was in the running for our managers job.
 
Sluper Klev said:
Wycombe at the time of the season pausing were in a hopeless state as far as promotion was concerned. Drifting downwards and playing horrible football.

However they got a lucky break and took their chances. I for one would have preferred them in our division next year rather than Oxford or Portsmouth.

I am also relieved that Ainsworth bottled it when he was in the running for our managers job.
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Won 3 lost 3 in their last 6 before lockdown. Hardlys a hopeless state.
 
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