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Mary Hinge said:
You pigeon holeing me sweet cheeks? I'm stereotypical Male am I? What if I'm a they? So we respect all other gods but can't mention the baby Cheesas?
Whee has the Fookin problem here?
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You seem awfully defensive pumpkin, I haven't said you're anything, I've asked.
AndyH said:
The solution is to remove any obstacles legally that prevent a black person from reaching their potential, which as a country I believe we have done.
To combat prejudice we all strive to be less prejudiced and when someone is being prejudiced you point it out to them, then you multiply all that by time.
Change takes time, my grandparents were more racist than my parents, I am less so than my parents, my children no doubt less than me and there children will probably be less so again.
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I disagree, race relations in this country (and the US) have been set back decades by the rise to prominence of racists in positions of power or influence, and subsequently the normalisation of racism, jingoism and twisted nationalism. Hate crimes spiked after the EU Referendum and after the Manchester Bombing (
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). The latter spike, I expect, were reactions from a need to get revenge against people who look, sound or worship in a similar way to the terrorist. The former, in my opinion, was because of the rhetoric used by the Pro-Brexit politicians and demagogues.

You may be less racist than yourself and your forefathers, but your kids and their kids? Growing up in a more divided, more angry time? I wouldn't bet against them being more racist than yourself.
 
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AndyH said:
The solution is to remove any obstacles legally that prevent a black person from reaching their potential, which as a country I believe we have done.
To combat prejudice we all strive to be less prejudiced and when someone is being prejudiced you point it out to them, then you multiply all that by time.
Change takes time, my grandparents were more racist than my parents, I am less so than my parents, my children no doubt less than me and there children will probably be less so again.

For the majority of people in the UK skin colour is not an issue or certainly if you are talking about the under 50's.
Looting and riots will not change anyone's minds in the right direction. It won't make a racist less racist you will just strengthen his argument. You might change a few peoples minds that are not racist but you will be changing them in the wrong direction.
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So it’ll sort itself out in a few generations time then...
Again no solutions just a lot of words to say ‘it is what it is - get used to it, it’ll probably be less of an issue in 50 years or so.’
AndyH said:
To combat prejudice we all strive to be less prejudiced and when someone is being prejudiced you point it out to them,
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Do you do this? Pull people up for racist remarks/ behaviours? Any evidence of you doing this? You’re quite active on a post about racism so I’d guess you’d have an example if so.
AndyH said:
My grandparents were more racist than my parents, I am less so than my parents, my children no doubt less than me and there children will probably be less so again.
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Is that you admitting you’re ‘a bit racist’?
 
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The Fish said:
You seem awfully defensive pumpkin, I haven't said you're anything, I've asked.
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Unconscious bias, you think so I am....I'm devastated by this slight....
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If the intention was to go from a racist white country to a racist black country it's working really well.
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Nor the intention was to put people in positions of power and influence regardless of ability.....
 
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If a lad came around to pick my daughter up for a date, I'd feel more comfortable if it was a smartly dressed (smart jeans and a shirt say) young man holding flowers, rather than a Muslim in full traditional garb, big beard, holding a copy of the Koran.

Does that mean I am a racist? Suppose it does.
 
Scunny Dan said:
If a lad came around to pick my daughter up for a date, I'd feel more comfortable if it was a smartly dressed (smart jeans and a shirt say) young man holding flowers, rather than a Muslim in full traditional garb, big beard, holding a copy of the Koran.

Does that mean I am a racist? Suppose it does.
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What colour skin do the lads have?
 
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But I'm clearly showing prejudice without even meeting the chap in question? Feels wrong, but it IS the way I feel.
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You didn't mention their colour. If you'd rather your daughter went out with a the snappy dressed lad with flowers and he's asian over a white muslim with a beard the Koran then you're not basing it on skin colour?
 
Scunny Dan said:
Racism isn't just about skin colour though is it? Travellers suffer racism too don't they?
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Yes I suppose so. I suppose a psychologist would say you have a small bigotry against overt Muslims? Would you feel weird about a priest in full dress and a bible?
 
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So I am racist then. Not like a KKK Grand Wizard, but it's like you can't be a little bit pregnant isn't it. You are or you aren't.
woodlebert said:
Yes I suppose so. I suppose a psychologist would say you have a small bigotry against overt Muslims? Would you feel weird about a priest in full dress and a bible?
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Probably. But not as much. I don't want my daughter is a Burkha being treated like a second class citizrn.

Suppose I mistrust what I don't fully understand to an extent. A lot of people on this thread would label me as scum for it I should think.
 
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Scunny Dan said:
So I am racist then. Not like a KKK Grand Wizard, but it's like you can't be a little bit pregnant isn't it. You are or you aren't.


Probably. But not as much. I don't want my daughter is a Burkha being treated like a second class citizrn.

Suppose I mistrust what I don't fully understand to an extent. A lot of people on this thread would label me as scum for it I should think.
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At least you seem to have self awareness and are prepared to evaluate your thoughts and behaviours and be honest about what that means. Most aren’t capable of this and delude themselves that they aren’t racist or that there’s not a problem.
A lot of the scenarios you answered were more cultural than racial. A better question would be this:
Would you be happy to employ a black or Asian person to work beside you every day? Would you be prepared to choose them over a slightly less proven/ capable white/ English person? (lets assume they were atheist to take religion out of the mix and spoke perfect perfect English)?
 
Scunny Dan said:
So I am racist then. Not like a KKK Grand Wizard, but it's like you can't be a little bit pregnant isn't it. You are or you aren't.


Probably. But not as much. I don't want my daughter is a Burkha being treated like a second class citizrn.

Suppose I mistrust what I don't fully understand to an extent. A lot of people on this thread would label me as scum for it I should think.
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I think you come across as perfectly reasonable tbh
 
Channel 4 now, using some Harvard testing bollocks to determine that class of kids at 11 have an unconscious bias towards white people.....sick Fooks.....
 
Scunny Dan said:
Yes and yes, obviously. A clear commercial / common sense decision.

Do you class me as racist due to my above points?
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No not particularly, some prejudice’s which all of us have in one way or another - those seem to be based on cultural differences/ fear of the unfamiliar rather than race. I
Suppose this proves a very useful point to those who aren’t prepared debate the issue. No one is insisting you become a woke, militant left race warrior. If you are prepared to look yourself in the mirror, be honest about your outlook, avoid an us vs them mentality and judge people on their merit then you’re not realty a part of the problem.
 
Scunny Dan said:
If a lad came around to pick my daughter up for a date, I'd feel more comfortable if it was a smartly dressed (smart jeans and a shirt say) young man holding flowers, rather than a Muslim in full traditional garb, big beard, holding a copy of the Koran.

Does that mean I am a racist? Suppose it does.
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Yeah
 
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