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June to July 2020 - NUFC

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Oh my this Staveley court case is brutal:
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The Fish said:
How , after so many times repeating the same thing, are you failing to understand the difference between aim and achievement? None of those teams aimed to be below Newcastle, did they?




People contextualise Leicester's unlikely Premier League win all the time. I contextualise Newcastle's unlikely 5th placed finish too. People are contextualising Liverpool's likely title win this season. Other Sunderland fans contextualise your relegations.



Again, aim v achievement is tripping you up. None of those players were to make a loss on.


And that's despite little to no investment in the academy, imagine how many young local lads we could have brought through for buttons and either played or sold to cover investment in the first team.



It wasn't that solid, we were fighting against relegation because the squad wasn't deep enough.



“I tried from the summer of 2012 to sign a new contract with Newcastle but it never worked. It was always ‘We will give you this, but only if you play games’. I kept saying to them ‘It is the same – I will play’. But they wanted that in the contract. I kept saying ‘Don’t do this to me.’ ”

Direct quote from Ba. Of course when Chelsea found out about his pittance of a release clause they came in for him, but he was playing regularly, playing well, so why didn't they give him a new contract? Well because they gambled that we'd survive without him.


You wouldn't be in League One, I think he'd be a decent owner for you. He'd get you back in the Premier League, he'll have learned a lot of lessons from owning us. Don't pick a fight with club legends, don't rename the stadium without paying for it, don't get embroiled in constructive dismissal cases with cancer sufferers, don't antagonise the fan base, and so on...

Thing is Ashley is worse than you make out, but not as bad as is made out by the caricature Newcastle fan you invent to serve a purpose.
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You keep saying aim v acheivment but this is entirely YOUR OPINION.

There is no evidence to say he only wants to finish 17th, everything I have posted, which is facts, mitigates this aim v acheivment argument ffs. :rolleyes:
 
jlaws said:
Oh my this Staveley court case is brutal:
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What's happened that's brutal like?
Just had a look the defense for Barclays is tearing her apart shes mumbling and having to say I'm unsure.
 
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BigPeter said:
What's happened that's brutal like?
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Just imagine being in her shoes, with the prosecuting barrister pulling up emails/diary entries from 2009. He had her tied in knots and she didn't have a clue. You knew she was on the ropes when she threw in "my grandmother had just died". As far as I can gather, she is claiming to be a partner in the deal but they contend she is just the "fixer" and deserved nothing more than an arrangement fee.
 
jlaws said:
Just imagine being in her shoes, with the prosecuting barrister pulling up emails/diary entries from 2009. He had her tied in knots and she didn't have a clue. You knew she was on the ropes when she threw in "my grandmother had just died". As far as I can gather, she is claiming to be a partner in the deal but they contend she is just the "fixer" and deserved nothing more than an arrangement fee.
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Just put it on, She is getting absolutely rinsed here mind, Christ it's actually painful to watch.
 
sproates33 said:
Just put it on, She is getting absolutely rinsed here mind, Christ it's actually painful to watch.
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It’s not pleasant being cross examined. Happened to me a fair few times as part of my job. Barristers are a clever bunch. Then afterwards they all laugh and joke about it.
 
janey said:
Never known anyone wipe there glasses as much it’s every 2 minutes
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Buying time? She has dropped some names....in the last few minutes
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Sabre Mag said:
It’s not pleasant being cross examined. Happened to me a fair few times as part of my job. Barristers are a clever bunch. Then afterwards they all laugh and joke about it.
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Awful, must be even worse with Barclays probably using the best defence lawyer there is, i think i would just give in :lol:
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Buying time? She has dropped some names....in the last few minutes
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She deals with some very very dodgy people.
 
janey said:
When a barrister asks a question and then just stands and says nothing while letting you provide a long winded reply you know you are in bother.
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Aye nothing worse then realising your waffling like and that’s what they want. It’s them being good at their jobs. They love to get you floundering and desperately searching for an answer. It’s much better to try and be clear and concise but it’s really hard in the spotlight of course
 
Sabre Mag said:
Aye nothing worse then realising your waffling like and that’s what they want. It’s them being good at their jobs. They love to get you floundering and desperately searching for an answer. It’s much better to try and be clear and concise but it’s really hard in the spotlight of course
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Totally agree been there and done it, more times than I care to remember, but you do wise up to it. Yes or no with a bit of context when necessary now. If you don’t you give them more ammunition because they find more questions in your replies.
I always said that’s why they are paid what they are paid.
 
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