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March to June 2020 - NEWCASTLE UTD fc

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AndyH said:
Are you telling me we are the baddies?
"drops the mic"
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On 10 January 2016,
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reported that "the
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, the German intelligence agency, portrayed...Saudi defence minister and Deputy Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman...as a political gambler who is destabilising the Arab world through
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." German officials reacted to the BND's memo, saying the published statement "is not the position of the federal government".

Protest in against Crown Prince's state visit to the , 7 March 2018
Mohammed bin Salman leads the against the , who in 2015 seized and ousted the Saudi-backed government, ending multilateral efforts towards a political settlement following the . Coalition airstrikes during the intervention have resulted in thousands of civilians killed or injured, prompting accusations of in the intervention.

Following a Houthi missile attack against Riyadh in December 2017, which was intercepted by Saudi air defense, airstrikes killed 136 Yemeni civilians and injured 87 others in eleven days. In August 2018, the reported that all parties in the conflict were responsible for human rights violations and for actions which could be considered war crimes.

Prince Mohammed is considered the architect of the war in . The war and has cost the kingdom tens of billions of dollars, further aggravated the in the country and destroyed much of 's infrastructure, but failed to dislodge the Houthi rebels and their allies from the Yemeni capital. More than 50,000 children in Yemen died from in 2017. From 2015 till May 2019 the number of total deaths of children is said to be approximately 85,000. The in Yemen is the direct result of the Saudi-led intervention and of the rebel-held area. In October 2018, , the for Yemen, warned that 12 to 13 million Yemenis were at risk of starvation if the war continued for another three months. On 28 March 2018, Saudi Arabia, along with its coalition partner the UAE, donated US$930 million to the United Nations which, according to , "...(will) help to alleviate the suffering of millions of vulnerable people across Yemen". The funds cover almost one-third of the $2.96 billion required to implement the UN's 2018 Yemen Humanitarian Response Plan. Following the Houthi missile attack against Riyadh in December 2017, which was intercepted by Saudi air defense, Mohammed Bin Salman retaliated with a ten-day barrage of indiscriminate airstrikes against civilian areas in Yemen held by Houthi forces, killing dozens of children.

In August 2018, a report by cited unnamed sources claiming that former US Secretary of State had in June 2017 intervened to stop a Saudi-Emirati plan to invade , resulting in increased pressure from Saudi Arabia and the UAE for his removal from office.

U.S. Defense Secretary with Prince Mohammed, 22 March 2018
Following the , the approved a resolution to impose sanctions on people blocking humanitarian access in Yemen and suspend arms sales to Saudi Arabia. Senator said "is more of a burden than an asset." He also said, "The crown prince [of Saudi Arabia] is so toxic, so tainted, so flawed."

Andrew Smith, of Campaign Against Arms Trade (CAAT), said that and "have played an utterly central and complicit role in arming and supporting the Saudi-led destruction of Yemen." Hunt's Conservative was partly funded by a close associate to Mohammed bin Salman.
 
Black Cat Gypsy said:
On 10 January 2016,
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reported that "the
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, the German intelligence agency, portrayed...Saudi defence minister and Deputy Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman...as a political gambler who is destabilising the Arab world through
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." German officials reacted to the BND's memo, saying the published statement "is not the position of the federal government".

Protest in against Crown Prince's state visit to the , 7 March 2018
Mohammed bin Salman leads the against the , who in 2015 seized and ousted the Saudi-backed government, ending multilateral efforts towards a political settlement following the . Coalition airstrikes during the intervention have resulted in thousands of civilians killed or injured, prompting accusations of in the intervention.

Following a Houthi missile attack against Riyadh in December 2017, which was intercepted by Saudi air defense, airstrikes killed 136 Yemeni civilians and injured 87 others in eleven days. In August 2018, the reported that all parties in the conflict were responsible for human rights violations and for actions which could be considered war crimes.

Prince Mohammed is considered the architect of the war in . The war and has cost the kingdom tens of billions of dollars, further aggravated the in the country and destroyed much of 's infrastructure, but failed to dislodge the Houthi rebels and their allies from the Yemeni capital. More than 50,000 children in Yemen died from in 2017. From 2015 till May 2019 the number of total deaths of children is said to be approximately 85,000. The in Yemen is the direct result of the Saudi-led intervention and of the rebel-held area. In October 2018, , the for Yemen, warned that 12 to 13 million Yemenis were at risk of starvation if the war continued for another three months. On 28 March 2018, Saudi Arabia, along with its coalition partner the UAE, donated US$930 million to the United Nations which, according to , "...(will) help to alleviate the suffering of millions of vulnerable people across Yemen". The funds cover almost one-third of the $2.96 billion required to implement the UN's 2018 Yemen Humanitarian Response Plan. Following the Houthi missile attack against Riyadh in December 2017, which was intercepted by Saudi air defense, Mohammed Bin Salman retaliated with a ten-day barrage of indiscriminate airstrikes against civilian areas in Yemen held by Houthi forces, killing dozens of children.

In August 2018, a report by cited unnamed sources claiming that former US Secretary of State had in June 2017 intervened to stop a Saudi-Emirati plan to invade , resulting in increased pressure from Saudi Arabia and the UAE for his removal from office.

U.S. Defense Secretary with Prince Mohammed, 22 March 2018
Following the , the approved a resolution to impose sanctions on people blocking humanitarian access in Yemen and suspend arms sales to Saudi Arabia. Senator said "is more of a burden than an asset." He also said, "The crown prince [of Saudi Arabia] is so toxic, so tainted, so flawed."

Andrew Smith, of Campaign Against Arms Trade (CAAT), said that and "have played an utterly central and complicit role in arming and supporting the Saudi-led destruction of Yemen." Hunt's Conservative was partly funded by a close associate to Mohammed bin Salman.
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Didn't bother reading that, I'm assuming that is your long winded way of saying "yes you are the baddies"
 
AndyH said:
He is not arguing against the takeover from a football perspective, if he was there are some valid points he could raise.

He is arguing against it from a moral stand point, he is saying they should not be able to make the purchase because they are a evil regime. If you are taking that stand point it's not reasonable to argue it's fine for them to buy into X & Y but not if they buy into Z.
If you want to argue that the Saudi's should not be able to do business with the UK until they clean up their act then that is a valid argument.
If your argument is it's fine for the Saudi's to do business with the UK apart from the business of NUFC because I don't like them then you don't really have a rational argument.
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I don’t think I’ve seen anyone on here defend them or say it’s fine for the U.K. to do business with them. Successive governments have done so and will continue to do so. That does not make it fine. It’s an abomination and morally reprehensible. You seem to be under the impression that people’s dislike of the Saudi regime has been born out of a dislike of your club, while this may be true of some, to suggest or imply it is the case for everyone is disingenuous at the very best. There are many people that find the Saudi government repulsive, you putting down to a footballing rivalry is utter nonsense.
take it on the chin and at least admit it. You are delighted to have them as they may spend some money.
 
AndyH said:
Didn't bother reading that, I'm assuming that is your long winded way of saying "yes you are the baddies"
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The fact that it doesn't bother you speaks volumes.

Before you give me the "I know he is a bad person and Saudi Arabia has a human rights record but I just want to support my team and see us win things. I can separate the two. I support NUFC not MBS."

Buy celebrating, welcoming and supporting Newcastle United YOU ARE SUPPORTING HIS REGIME! You're justifying and allowing him to continue his reign of terror.
 
Black Cat Gypsy said:
The fact that it doesn't bother you speaks volumes.

Before you give me the "I know he is a bad person and Saudi Arabia has a human rights record but I just want to support my team and see us win things. I can separate the two. I support NUFC not MBS."

Buy celebrating, welcoming and supporting Newcastle United YOU ARE SUPPORTING HIS REGIME! You're justifying and allowing him to continue his reign of terror.
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So if we said, "no thanks" less people would die?
 
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