March to June 2020 - NEWCASTLE UTD fc

[AndyH]

Why
This takeover has everything thing about politics
Mags are now aplogestists for the Saudis and taking moral high ground on their behalf despite hauling Ashley over the coals
Just what the Saudis want
Fallen right into their laps

Quick question see if you can muster an honest answer.
Had there never have been any mention of the Saudi's taking over Newcastle and you picked up the Sunday paper and read:
The public investment fund of Saudi Arabia is buying a 80% stake in Dyson as part of its 2030 vision project to look to the future and diverse away from oil.
Would you be outraged, would you be on a forum calling for it to be stopped. Would you be telling people they should be ashamed if they buy a Dyson should the deal go through.
When your vacuum breaks and you find the mrs looking at a Dyson would you be telling her there is no way she can have it because if she does she will be condoning the murder of gays, torture, womens rights etc etc etc.

or would the whole thing just pass you by

 

[Wolfhunter]

So is it made-up or guesswork that PIF are backing the takeover?

It’s also a pure coincidence, of course, that the likes of Caulkin and a few others, who Staveley has spoke to in the past, seemingly have an inside scoop on this. Being in the media spotlight is important for Amanda.

Again, what's the, "inside scoop?"

There are many people involved that could pass on information.

We are not going to agree on this as it can't really be proved either way. I do find it strange that the "fact" that Staveley is passing on information bothers you though!
As for he loving the spotlight, I've only ever seen or heard from during the first attempt at a takeover.

 

[AndyH]

So is it made-up or guesswork that PIF are backing the takeover?

It’s also a pure coincidence, of course, that the likes of Caulkin and a few others, who Staveley has spoke to in the past, seemingly have an inside scoop on this. Being in the media spotlight is important for Amanda.

The wall street journal broke that story, that it was 80% PIF, 10 % stavely and 10% Reubens.
To be honest I think the Journalists are all using that as the source and just rehashing it.
That story broke when Ashley was in New York so most likely him getting a wobbly gob on at one of his champagne parties.

 

[Rodderz]

good god, the amount of mags on here trying to defend murderers man! Fuck off back to your own boards, terrorist sympathisers!

 

[frot]

The wall street journal broke that story, that it was 80% PIF, 10 % stavely and 10% Reubens.
To be honest I think the Journalists are all using that as the source and just rehashing it.
That story broke when Ashley was in New York so most likely him getting a wobbly gob on at one of his champagne parties.

Possibly. Although I’m sure that initial story placed Staveley front and centre. I’m not sure Ashley would frame it that way.

I am genuinely intrigued by this. Possibly because there’s so little else going on, but it’s an interesting story with a lot of random details.

Again, what's the, "inside scoop?"

There are many people involved that could pass on information.

We are not going to agree on this as it can't really be proved either way. I do find it strange that the "fact" that Staveley is passing on information bothers you though!
As for he loving the spotlight, I've only ever seen or heard from during the first attempt at a takeover.

it doesn’t bother me. It might bother me a bit more if I was a Newcastle fan. This could have been completed a lot easier under the radar, instead the details were leaked to the press, which has made the process way more difficult. We are speculating on who that was, but I would say whoever did was evidently close to the deal, but perhaps had an ulterior motive. Or was naive enough to think it wouldn’t have any effect. Either way, I’m not sure I’d want that person close to the deal or the club.

 

[Wolfhunter]

Possibly. Although I’m sure that initial story placed Staveley front and centre. I’m not sure Ashley would frame it that way.

I am genuinely intrigued by this. Possibly because there’s so little else going on, but it’s an interesting story with a lot of random details.



it doesn’t bother me. It might bother me a bit more if I was a Newcastle fan. This could have been completed a lot easier under the radar, instead the details were leaked to the press, which has made the process way more difficult. We are speculating on who that was, but I would say whoever did was evidently close to the deal, but perhaps had an ulterior motive. Or was naive enough to think it wouldn’t have any effect. Either way, I’m not sure I’d want that person close to the deal or the club.

Well, as I said, I haven't seen anything "leaked" that would make any difference. Unless you are just talking about the involvement of PIF in which case, that was always going to come out at some point and doesn't make any difference to weither the deal goes ahead or not. All the negative press would have been the same albeit at a later date!

 

[AndyH]

Possibly. Although I’m sure that initial story placed Staveley front and centre. I’m not sure Ashley would frame it that way.

I am genuinely intrigued by this. Possibly because there’s so little else going on, but it’s an interesting story with a lot of random details.

I personally didn't feel confident of the Saudi involvement until the Reuben brothers mentioned it on their website. Its on the house of Saud website now so it's safe to say that's definite.
I still think it remains to be seen what the intentions are, i'm not one of the people expecting untold wealth to be thrown at it. I keep saying while that might be the case it also might be the case that it's just a loan from the Saudi's and they could be investing jack shit.

 

[Lonz]

Why
This takeover has everything thing about politics
Mags are now aplogestists for the Saudis and taking moral high ground on their behalf despite hauling Ashley over the coals
Just what the Saudis want
Fallen right into their laps

They’re nothing more than hypocrites. Plenty of them in football.

 

[Secret Visage]

The BEIN accusations won't have slowed anything down or at least no significantly. maybe the time it took them to email them and ask them for the proof they don't have.
Not that i am saying i am certain the take over will go through or anything because I'm not, like I always say i'll believe it when it happens and not before.

Just saying that BEIN don't even have an argument never mind a case when it comes to getting the premier league to block the deal on grounds of Piracy.
Their case in a nutshell is that a pirate broadcaster called BEOUTQ who they believe are based in Saudi, but can't prove and nobody knows who they are, broadcast their material with the knowledge of the Saudi government which they also can't prove.
They believe its done by a Saudi company which they took to court, lost and had so little evidence where refused the right to appeal and had to pay the Saudi's damages and costs.
They believe it's knowingly going out over Arabsat which they say is a Saudi owned satellite company which they also took to court and also lost, not to mention the fact Arabsat isn't even owned by the Saudi's.
Not to mention the fact that none of the above has anything to do with the company trying to buy Newcastle which is PIF who have never been accused of being involved in any of it.

It's not exactly a compelling argument is it, while i would not be surprised if the Saudi's are doing what they say they are it's not what you think it's what you have proved.
They may as well have wrote the PL a letter saying please don't let the Saudi's buy NUFC as it makes us sad.

Look at the f***ing clip of this man you sad knacker.

Take a break from here, for your own wellbeing as well as ours.

 

[horselover]

I personally didn't feel confident of the Saudi involvement until the Reuben brothers mentioned it on their website. Its on the house of Saud website now so it's safe to say that's definite.
I still think it remains to be seen what the intentions are, i'm not one of the people expecting untold wealth to be thrown at it. I keep saying while that might be the case it also might be the case that it's just a loan from the Saudi's and they could be investing jack shit.

10 minutes after midnight and your'e still on here ffs. Its unbelievable really. You definitely have no home life. Get a grip and get yourself a life man

 

[safctommie]

Quick question see if you can muster an honest answer.
Had there never have been any mention of the Saudi's taking over Newcastle and you picked up the Sunday paper and read:
The public investment fund of Saudi Arabia is buying a 80% stake in Dyson as part of its 2030 vision project to look to the future and diverse away from oil.
Would you be outraged, would you be on a forum calling for it to be stopped. Would you be telling people they should be ashamed if they buy a Dyson should the deal go through.
When your vacuum breaks and you find the mrs looking at a Dyson would you be telling her there is no way she can have it because if she does she will be condoning the murder of gays, torture, womens rights etc etc etc.

or would the whole thing just pass you by

Great post.I wonder how many on here work for companies who do business with or even in Saudi Arabia.Nissan for one.No matter how much I dislike you mugs,if the Saudi’s were going to buy Donald out I’d be over the moon.

 

[G Whizz]

Quick question see if you can muster an honest answer.
Had there never have been any mention of the Saudi's taking over Newcastle and you picked up the Sunday paper and read:
The public investment fund of Saudi Arabia is buying a 80% stake in Dyson as part of its 2030 vision project to look to the future and diverse away from oil.
Would you be outraged, would you be on a forum calling for it to be stopped. Would you be telling people they should be ashamed if they buy a Dyson should the deal go through.
When your vacuum breaks and you find the mrs looking at a Dyson would you be telling her there is no way she can have it because if she does she will be condoning the murder of gays, torture, womens rights etc etc etc.

or would the whole thing just pass you by

I love Dyson me so I'd be straight on a Shark forum to tell them that the Saudi's are a great bunch of lads. Then I'd hound Khashoggi's fiance and call Amnesty International out for what they are, a bunch of Henry the Hoover shills.

 

[Sabre Mag]

good god, the amount of mags on here trying to defend murderers man! Fuck off back to your own boards, terrorist sympathisers!

People from Saudi Arabia possibly buying an 80% stake in the club I happen to support, something in which I have no choice = I’m a terrorist sympathiser. Brilliant.

 

[mr chuckles]

People from Saudi Arabia possibly buying an 80% stake in the club I happen to support, something in which I have no choice = I’m a terrorist sympathiser. Brilliant.

Do a protest yous are good at that

 

[The Fish]

Don’t have a problem with mags who want to come on here to talk football, there are a few decent ones who contribute well to this board. However I have about a dozen on ignore already as it’s patently obvious the reason they’re here is simply to wind people up and they add little value to the place. Obviously you fall into this group, as you only tend to be argumentative with anyone who isn’t a mag, but you amuse me because you do manage to string a sentence together and I get the impression you actually believe the drivel you come out with.

However, once your takeover goes through, yourself, Andy (aka Sima) and a few others will be straight on ignore as the level of bullsh!t will be simply too much. If it doesn’t go through, then I needn’t bother with the ignore as I’d be very surprised if any of you lot come back.

I don't try to wind anybody up. I'm just pretty relentless when I see some of the stuff that's patently and objectively untrue.

Also, I'll admit I can be a bit argumentative, but that's just habit of having to defend myself.

I disagree with some of the Newcastle fans on here, about Benitez, about Ashley, about zero hours contracts...

They've got a thread on SAFC 149 pages you knacker so dont try and feel you're special difference is they don't mind us, now why on earth would they find Newcastle fans bellends ? Hmmmmm

Isn't that weird in and of itself?

Do you have a massive thread about West Ham? Leicester? Spurs? Man Utd?

 

[raven_5]

Quick question see if you can muster an honest answer.
Had there never have been any mention of the Saudi's taking over Newcastle and you picked up the Sunday paper and read:
The public investment fund of Saudi Arabia is buying a 80% stake in Dyson as part of its 2030 vision project to look to the future and diverse away from oil.
Would you be outraged, would you be on a forum calling for it to be stopped. Would you be telling people they should be ashamed if they buy a Dyson should the deal go through.
When your vacuum breaks and you find the mrs looking at a Dyson would you be telling her there is no way she can have it because if she does she will be condoning the murder of gays, torture, womens rights etc etc etc.

or would the whole thing just pass you by

What a complete idiot!

People from Saudi Arabia possibly buying an 80% stake in the club I happen to support, something in which I have no choice = I’m a terrorist sympathiser. Brilliant.

Oh, now they're just "prople from saudi arabia". So if ISIS bought 80% of your club, you'd be ok with it?

 

[Rodderz]

People from Saudi Arabia possibly buying an 80% stake in the club I happen to support, something in which I have no choice = I’m a terrorist sympathiser. Brilliant.

no mate, they’re terrorists. Not just people from Saudi. Terrorists.
Oh and again, I can’t emphasise this more....fuck off, seriously.

 

[Super Ted]

Quick question see if you can muster an honest answer.
Had there never have been any mention of the Saudi's taking over Newcastle and you picked up the Sunday paper and read:
The public investment fund of Saudi Arabia is buying a 80% stake in Dyson as part of its 2030 vision project to look to the future and diverse away from oil.
Would you be outraged, would you be on a forum calling for it to be stopped. Would you be telling people they should be ashamed if they buy a Dyson should the deal go through.
When your vacuum breaks and you find the mrs looking at a Dyson would you be telling her there is no way she can have it because if she does she will be condoning the murder of gays, torture, womens rights etc etc etc.

or would the whole thing just pass you by

It’s not really comparible if we are honest though, is it?

 

[woodlebert]

Quick question see if you can muster an honest answer.
Had there never have been any mention of the Saudi's taking over Newcastle and you picked up the Sunday paper and read:
The public investment fund of Saudi Arabia is buying a 80% stake in Dyson as part of its 2030 vision project to look to the future and diverse away from oil.
Would you be outraged, would you be on a forum calling for it to be stopped. Would you be telling people they should be ashamed if they buy a Dyson should the deal go through.
When your vacuum breaks and you find the mrs looking at a Dyson would you be telling her there is no way she can have it because if she does she will be condoning the murder of gays, torture, womens rights etc etc etc.

or would the whole thing just pass you by

This is an appealing line to go down but I'm not sure it works.

If you logged onto a home appliances fanatics forum there would probably be those responses. This is a football forum so the weight of interest is obviously towards football & the north east

And actually, in the scenario you detail, I think there would be post (likely in the politics forum) saying what a shame it was that Dyson was selling his industry to a foreign state

 

[AndyH]

What a complete idiot!

Oh, now they're just "prople from saudi arabia". So if ISIS bought 80% of your club, you'd be ok with it?

What exactly did you think was idiotic about it apart from it demonstrating how much shit you are talking?

On the second point no I wouldn't be happy if ISIS took over the club as their goal is to force Islam upon me through violence and I'm very much not a fan of Islam. Isis represent a threat to me as in they would do me harm if given the chance.
The Saudi's on the other hand are not after doing me harm and while I don't agree with the culture they live by as long as they are living it in Saudi Arabia it doesn't threaten me.
The Saudi's are fighting ISIS by the way and our strongest allies over there.
We have a government to which we allocate the task of deciding who we should and shouldn't do business with, they have decided it's not only ok but it's desirable to increase business links with the Saudi's, this is good enough for me.