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March to June 2020 - NEWCASTLE UTD fc

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people wrongly consider football an "ethical game" and prestige, which is why it attracts certain foreign owners who wants to distract the world away from their unsavoury, evil behaviour.
The problem especially with the premier league is because we live in a democracy and not a theocracy people can do and say what they want. The very fact people can openly discuss this topic without getting thrown in jail is the beauty of freedom.
So an owner throws money at football and they expects the kudos of winning football somehow distracts away from the atrocities under their rule. The global reach of the premier league means it can become a conduit to call out evil behaviour. Id imagine it could be used by amnesty International to assist their campaign for change. The never ending nature of premier league football means it can become a powerful voice for change forever till change occurs.
Those minority who want to remain blissfully ignorant to any atrocities I think history will judge them poorly. Its unethical to shrug your shoulders and try to pretend sport and world events don't co-exist, sport is part of this world!
 
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The whole point of sportswashing is to help maintain the status quo in that society and resist change.

It is a deflection and a buying of influence. They already use social bots to try to deflect from their vile practices, it seems they have just bought tens of thousands more for a £17m down payment.

Football sold its soul a long while back to corporations so no surprise if this goes through but it is the equivalent of a club being bought by Saddam Hussain or Colonel Gadafi, imo.
 
Jim White
The @premierleague said to be uneasy about aspects of Saudi-backed £300m takeover of @nufc - lawyers reportedly scrutinising deal.
So @nufc fans - do you 100% back the mega deal or are you troubled by image of potential new owners?
 
Rottie said:
A lad on twitter who works for Amnesty and supports Newcastle posted a thread about the takeover last night.
The abuse in the replies he got was unbelievable, everyone with Saudi flags and head scarves telling him to fk off and mind his own business.

exactly what the Saudis are looking for, there's no modernisation ffs just a smoke and mirrors sham.
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Some of the replies...
@Ricardo 1892
So yet more political meddling and drivel , not once do you mention The Reubens or Amanda Staveley who will have a huge positive impact on both the club and City.We won’t get a second chance at the jackpot !

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@NUFCfanatic1892
I’m going to support my club and go to games! I’m not holding up some banner of that poor journalist every week like that faux activist Delaney told us to. You won’t find a single Newcastle fan that supports human rights abuses. We don’t have to prove that to anyone, so get real.


@kevy fitz
Preach, preach, preach.. I’ll be honest and tell you right now, I don’t care about the Saudi humanrights. I care about football and this is good for my football club imo so I won’t be helping you to spread your message.

@Jonny J
I'm not condoning what they do but I'll become a part time executioner for them if it means we're lifted out of the doldrums. There's been enough suffering - for us fans!

(Jonny, there, comparing not winning a trophy to - well, you know. Fun fact - he's also prepared to join in)


@enda martin
Shut up ya dose. Oh look at me I work for amnesty international and this is the one time in life I’ll have any relevance to the world.

(Martin seems nice. In a kind of 'f***ing awful shouldn't be allowed to talk to people of any sorts' way)

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I hope you are going to give up your season ticket or are you going to be a hypocrite and still attend whilst still working and supporting that crass union that can't even support it's on workers threatening and actually kill themselves

("Crass union")

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@sportswashdirect.com
What you doing about Qatar?

(the fella works for Amnesty - they're all over Qatar)
@Martin Shields
Very interesting, what do you think about Saudie princes having %s in Man U and Sheff U? Why was nothing said when this happened?



@Christine Slimm
So what do you think about our government supplying arms to Saudi Arabia?

(he still works for Amnesty, he's worried about Saudi, Christine, and has been for some time)
 
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kingkeane said:
Jim White
The @premierleague said to be uneasy about aspects of Saudi-backed £300m takeover of @nufc - lawyers reportedly scrutinising deal.
So @nufc fans - do you 100% back the mega deal or are you troubled by image of potential new owners?
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Reckon this has something to do with BEIN Sports threatening to pull the plug on their deal with the PL behind the scenes?
 
Roker Mackem said:
Its a disaster if it goes through like. Luckily at this moment in time I dont directly work alongside too many staunch Mags. Half the family are Mags mind...
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It really won’t be. They can buy the whole lot for all I care. Felt awful when it was 1st mentioned but more it goes on with all the shite that’s getting flung at it and especially their fans, I think they’re going to be hugely unpopular. The worst thing about being a Sunderland fan during the Keegan era was how many fans of other clubs genuinely liked them and still do. It won’t be the case here at all.
 
wigwams said:
It really won’t be. They can buy the whole lot for all I care. Felt awful when it was 1st mentioned but more it goes on with all the shite that’s getting flung at it and especially their fans, I think they’re going to be hugely unpopular. The worst thing about being a Sunderland fan during the Keegan era was how many fans of other clubs genuinely liked them and still do. It won’t be the case here at all.
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That team would have became hated if they went on to constantly win over a period of years, it's fan nature to hate the best team....no matter what happens behind the scenes....
 
AndyH said:
Don't know about the royal family but our government count Saudi as our strongest allies in the middle east as do the US and both have a strong desire to increase ties with them.
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yeah they’re very in cahoots. I remember reading that each year the Saudis gift the royal family with multi million pound jewellery.
 
wigwams said:
It really won’t be. They can buy the whole lot for all I care. Felt awful when it was 1st mentioned but more it goes on with all the shite that’s getting flung at it and especially their fans, I think they’re going to be hugely unpopular. The worst thing about being a Sunderland fan during the Keegan era was how many fans of other clubs genuinely liked them and still do. It won’t be the case here at all.
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Spot on. From a PR standpoint, this deal is an absolute disaster for them. Quite a big student city too, absolute ripe for protests against them.
 
Leonard osbourne said:
That team would have became hated if they went on to constantly win over a period of years, it's fan nature to hate the best team....no matter what happens behind the scenes....
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Yeah, and Keegan's team was seem as the plucky challengers - the entertainers* who gave it a go. But once that goes from giving a go to getting it, then opinion will naturally change.

*Interesting aside - the entertainers failed not because they were awful at the back, as people often say, but because they didn't score enough goals... Compared to other league winners, they fell far short in front of goal. Stole that fact from Michael Cox's In The Mixer book.
 
wigwams said:
It really won’t be. They can buy the whole lot for all I care. Felt awful when it was 1st mentioned but more it goes on with all the shite that’s getting flung at it and especially their fans, I think they’re going to be hugely unpopular. The worst thing about being a Sunderland fan during the Keegan era was how many fans of other clubs genuinely liked them and still do. It won’t be the case here at all.
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Very true. If they did win a trophy it will have been bought by blood money. Thats quite a sobering thought.
 
Leonard osbourne said:
That team would have became hated if they went on to constantly win over a period of years, it's fan nature to hate the best team....no matter what happens behind the scenes....
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Not sure although you could be right. Who knows? There certainly won’t be the same romance around you this time, even less so if you buy trophies. Newcastle will not give a single fuck. Siege mentality has set in before the takeover has even finalised
 
safc_grindon said:
Yeah, and Keegan's team was seem as the plucky challengers - the entertainers* who gave it a go. But once that goes from giving a go to getting it, then opinion will naturally change.

*Interesting aside - the entertainers failed not because they were awful at the back, as people often say, but because they didn't score enough goals... Compared to other league winners, they fell far short in front of goal. Stole that fact from Michael Cox's In The Mixer book.
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Think we only conceded 3 more than Man Utd, we lost the big games, and the defeats home and away to Man Utd really hurt us mentally IMO....

Another thing, we played Man Utd away over Christmas, and Neville (I think) clattered Gillespie which put him out for months, before that we had balance, with two proper wingers with him and Ginola. I truly believe Ferguson had Gillespie deliberately done to upset the balance as he knew Ginola was too big and strong to be clattered.
Think Gillespie missed about 3 months....we pushed Beardsley out wide and that affected the whole nature of the team, not Asprilla or Batty....
 
safc_grindon said:
Yeah, and Keegan's team was seem as the plucky challengers - the entertainers* who gave it a go. But once that goes from giving a go to getting it, then opinion will naturally change.

*Interesting aside - the entertainers failed not because they were awful at the back, as people often say, but because they didn't score enough goals... Compared to other league winners, they fell far short in front of goal. Stole that fact from Michael Cox's In The Mixer book.
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He also had a chat about that season on the totally football pod as they’re looking back on old seasons. He comes across as a canny bloke. Is that book worth a purchase?
 
wigwams said:
It really won’t be. They can buy the whole lot for all I care. Felt awful when it was 1st mentioned but more it goes on with all the shite that’s getting flung at it and especially their fans, I think they’re going to be hugely unpopular. The worst thing about being a Sunderland fan during the Keegan era was how many fans of other clubs genuinely liked them and still do. It won’t be the case here at all.
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Its more like their true colours have now been shown. They’ll given anything for success at any cost. Desperation. Even fly the flags of Saudi Arabia and post pictures of a mass murderer MBS.
 
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