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March to June 2020 - NEWCASTLE UTD fc

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citybythesea said:
tbf whilst Adam Johnson was innocent the club continued playing him, when the justice system found him guilty of grooming he was promptly fired.

But make no mistake Newcastle’s new owners are no way comparable to that situation.
Newcastle are welcoming murderous, human trafficking, slave labouring, corruption loving, torture using, war mongering, dirty money to your club........and it’s all been overlooked because of the wealth.
Birds of a feather flock together
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He was fired the first day of the trial as soon as he pleaded guilty to one of the charges
 
mad cyril said:
look, if you want to be the moral winner here then be my guest. If you are looking to rank incidents and see your past demeanours as less detestable than ours then again you do that. Not once have I looked to compare here as you know.

other than you now being the moral winner here, what else do you want out of this ? It’s been proven by countless clubs over countless years that principles go out of the window once it affects their club so again, what is it that collectively NUFC fans can do here ?
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Well first to lose the hypocrisy of the MP and supporters who campaigned against Ashley, by admitting they can’t support the incoming owners because of their human right abuses by protesting about them and the MP raising the issue in the commons. If this were to happen I would genuinely, unreservedly applaud the Newcastle fans for taking a stand against inhumanity.......but there’s no protests.....of course none of this vitriol would be directed if the incoming owner was Bill Gates, Or Michael Bloomberg. I know how much Newcastle like to be seen as “everyone’s favourite second team” but this will endear Newcastle to no one, quite the opposite!
these type of owners are undermining the once wholesome nature of football, people will eventually see purchased success as a terrible trade off because of the dark undertones associated with it.
 
Stay where we are ...no question.
Location Location Location.
That's why we got The rugby world cup opening ceremony.
Every survey I have seen for away fans we are near the top
It is lopsided. . But it's a fantastic stadium.
Never move I say
 
Kestrel 9 said:
The Reuben brother's are worth £18b
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Is that their personal wealth or how much they are worth?

Juan Sartori is worth over a billion but he's personal wealth isn't anywhere near a billion. That's how a lot of people fall into the trap of believing they have billionaire owners and end up with chancers.

I'm not say that is happening at NUFC as bin Salman is worth £7bn in his own right which is staggering even without the personal wealth of the Reuben's.
 
Sabre Mag said:
I agree it will take time for footy to recover (all of us probably). However I think these potential owners are so rich that they can soak up any financial pressure and have probably taken it into account.

If it happens. Which it probably won’t.
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I love how pessimistic around 50% of your support are around this :lol:

I think its clear someone is taking over, PIF involvement might not be as clear cut as some are thinking but I'm about 95% certain you're getting rid of the person you want out.

Someone described it as you being conditioned to expect him to find some way of kicking you in the bollocks :lol:
 
What A Waster said:
Well according to reports its the Saudi public investment fund, which manages a fund of 260 billion, which is managed by the runt. Joining with the Reuben brothers worth £18bn.
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I'm not saying he's a runt, it was a joke.

But the main issue though isn't their wealth but their human rights record. You have to concerned that murderous dictator is about to control your club.

But it this way, if Vladimir Putin was to fund a takeover of us would the Mags not be on their high horse?
 
Black Cat Gypsy said:
I'm not saying he's a runt, it was a joke.

But the main issue though isn't their wealth but their human rights record. You have to concerned that murderous dictator is about to control your club.

But it this way, if Vladimir Putin was to fund a takeover of us would the Mags not be on their high horse?
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Of course they would especially all those from peripheral areas of the north east who should have no animosity towards Sunderland but somehow are the enemy ........ so would the chronicle journalists who love to paint Sunderland in the worse possible light on and off the pitch even though they’re supposed to represent the overall north east......and also all their ex-players who win cheap points by taking aim at us.

They’d all line up to condemn Sunderland, but because it’s Newcastle there’s just silence, ambivalence and glossing over it.
 
Black Cat Gypsy said:
Is that their personal wealth or how much they are worth?

Juan Sartori is worth over a billion but he's personal wealth isn't anywhere near a billion. That's how a lot of people fall into the trap of believing they have billionaire owners and end up with chancers.

I'm not say that is happening at NUFC as bin Salman is worth £7bn in his own right which is staggering even without the personal wealth of the Reuben's.
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You mean like Ashley's" wallpaper money"..,,,
 
Black Cat Gypsy said:
I'm not saying he's a runt, it was a joke.

But the main issue though isn't their wealth but their human rights record. You have to concerned that murderous dictator is about to control your club.

But it this way, if Vladimir Putin was to fund a takeover of us would the Mags not be on their high horse?
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I got that it was joke, no hostility intended.

Re. the other point. I'll try and keep it brief and light.
Whilst what they do with the laws in their own country, it's centuries behind, it's not good at all. It does sit uneasily.
Had Newcastle under Ashley aggressively ambitious or moderately succesful how he runs his other businesses would never have been an issue.
With the Saudis, they will do what they are doing whether or not they own Newcastle, any other club, or no club at all. Fans of the club support the club no matter who the owner is or what they do.
These arab states are all portrayed in a bad light, but thousands of uk workers go out there to work. Clearly these have no issue with the background of these regimes, or if they do, they still take the money and work for them.

With them buying into a football club, it'll be easy for fans to separate "back home" from what's happening at their club, as long as the club does well. All most football fans care about is how their team does. They're all hypocrites as well.

Sportswashing is rife, F1, the World Cup, boxing, PSG, City, etc etc.
It is happening, and will continue to happen.
I don't think I've ever had a problem with middle eastern investors in European clubs, but I have moaned about the Qatar world cup, so put me on the hypocrisy list as well.

Ultimately with the Saudi PIF looking to move into football, I'm glad it's at Newcastle and not somewhere like Birmingham, Villa, Leeds, Sheff Wed, Brighton, Sunderland etc.
We might achieve absolutely nothing, might end up like City. Probably be closer to Everton. But I'd still rather it was us than somebody else. I think most fans outside the top 6 or 7 teams in the country would welcome it.
I'd also probably be putting the boot in if it was another club. Football fans are mainly fickle and hypocritical. If we were all principled we would've knocked it on the head when players were earning 50k a week, but now when there's players on half a million a week it's more popular than ever.
Mr B said:
All those billions must be tied up elsewhere, good job Ashley is around to loan them cash to proceed.
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Assuming it even happens.
 
Mr B said:
Serious question for the thousands of mags who infest this site. St James’ was described as a lop sides carbuncle by previous owner John Hall and with the new stadia shooting up, Man City, Arsenal, Spurs, etc..., it’s starting to look a little sad to say the least.

If this takeover goes ahead and the new murderous regime decide to throw obscene amounts of blood money at the club, would you want them to flatten St James’ and build a more visually appealing stadium fit for the 21st century, or are you quite happy to keep the lop sided carbuncle?
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They don't even own the ground so they can't demolish it.
Johnap said:
I am just imaging the 50000000 Geordies on the town moor just looking at the shirts hanging out to dry. Property prices will rocket!
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Imagine the stench
 
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Charmless Man said:
I love how pessimistic around 50% of your support are around this :lol:

I think its clear someone is taking over, PIF involvement might not be as clear cut as some are thinking but I'm about 95% certain you're getting rid of the person you want out.

Someone described it as you being conditioned to expect him to find some way of kicking you in the bollocks :lol:
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Lol, well you just expect to be let down supporting Newcastle. It comes with the territory. I’m assuming a lot of Sunderland fans are the same! I just can’t or won’t believe it till it’s done.
 
What A Waster said:
I got that it was joke, no hostility intended.

Re. the other point. I'll try and keep it brief and light.
Whilst what they do with the laws in their own country, it's centuries behind, it's not good at all. It does sit uneasily.
Had Newcastle under Ashley aggressively ambitious or moderately succesful how he runs his other businesses would never have been an issue.
With the Saudis, they will do what they are doing whether or not they own Newcastle, any other club, or no club at all. Fans of the club support the club no matter who the owner is or what they do.
These arab states are all portrayed in a bad light, but thousands of uk workers go out there to work. Clearly these have no issue with the background of these regimes, or if they do, they still take the money and work for them.

With them buying into a football club, it'll be easy for fans to separate "back home" from what's happening at their club, as long as the club does well. All most football fans care about is how their team does. They're all hypocrites as well.

Sportswashing is rife, F1, the World Cup, boxing, PSG, City, etc etc.
It is happening, and will continue to happen.
I don't think I've ever had a problem with middle eastern investors in European clubs, but I have moaned about the Qatar world cup, so put me on the hypocrisy list as well.

Ultimately with the Saudi PIF looking to move into football, I'm glad it's at Newcastle and not somewhere like Birmingham, Villa, Leeds, Sheff Wed, Brighton, Sunderland etc.
We might achieve absolutely nothing, might end up like City. Probably be closer to Everton. But I'd still rather it was us than somebody else. I think most fans outside the top 6 or 7 teams in the country would welcome it.
I'd also probably be putting the boot in if it was another club. Football fans are mainly fickle and hypocritical. If we were all principled we would've knocked it on the head when players were earning 50k a week, but now when there's players on half a million a week it's more popular than ever.


Assuming it even happens.
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Great post.
Football has always been an easy target
Hold a world heavyweight championship of the world there. Not much said
Formula one ...not much said .
But football ...........
 
What A Waster said:
I got that it was joke, no hostility intended.

Re. the other point. I'll try and keep it brief and light.
Whilst what they do with the laws in their own country, it's centuries behind, it's not good at all. It does sit uneasily.
Had Newcastle under Ashley aggressively ambitious or moderately succesful how he runs his other businesses would never have been an issue.
With the Saudis, they will do what they are doing whether or not they own Newcastle, any other club, or no club at all. Fans of the club support the club no matter who the owner is or what they do.
These arab states are all portrayed in a bad light, but thousands of uk workers go out there to work. Clearly these have no issue with the background of these regimes, or if they do, they still take the money and work for them.

With them buying into a football club, it'll be easy for fans to separate "back home" from what's happening at their club, as long as the club does well. All most football fans care about is how their team does. They're all hypocrites as well.

Sportswashing is rife, F1, the World Cup, boxing, PSG, City, etc etc.
It is happening, and will continue to happen.
I don't think I've ever had a problem with middle eastern investors in European clubs, but I have moaned about the Qatar world cup, so put me on the hypocrisy list as well.

Ultimately with the Saudi PIF looking to move into football, I'm glad it's at Newcastle and not somewhere like Birmingham, Villa, Leeds, Sheff Wed, Brighton, Sunderland etc.
We might achieve absolutely nothing, might end up like City. Probably be closer to Everton. But I'd still rather it was us than somebody else. I think most fans outside the top 6 or 7 teams in the country would welcome it.
I'd also probably be putting the boot in if it was another club. Football fans are mainly fickle and hypocritical. If we were all principled we would've knocked it on the head when players were earning 50k a week, but now when there's players on half a million a week it's more popular than ever.


Assuming it even happens.
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Great post.
 
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