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March to June 2020 - NEWCASTLE UTD fc

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Banks said:
That's cute but Spurs have done it 18 times 😂 they've been in champions League final. They've won trophies recently. There's no comparison
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I'm aware they've done it more. 9 times out of 10 in 2010s and won more recently. Not disputing that. Just pointing out where you had went wrong.
League cup in 2008 and 1999 are their last trophies. Canny mad that Leicester have won more than spurs in the last 25 years.
 

What A Waster said:
I'm aware they've done it more. 9 times out of 10 in 2010s and won more recently. Not disputing that. Just pointing out where you had went wrong.
League cup in 2008 and 1999 are their last trophies. Canny mad that Leicester have won more than spurs in the last 25 years.
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So why should you be competing with Spurs then?

Match spurs then you might have a point.
 
Don’t know why people are too bothered.

The league is so saturated now, and if they didn’t win anything in the 90’s after breaking transfer records, they’re definitely not going to do it now.

Do think the takeover will help them compete in the top half mind.
 
mad cyril said:
Each to their own but I reckon 99.9% of historically rival fans could not just switch off their inbuilt rivalry.
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I think that's wishful thinking on your part.

I think Sunderland Boro would become the new derby personally. You'd be the new Boro.

You've always wanted Man Utd as your rivals. Do you think we'd sell 49k to watch you beat us every season. I don't
 
Wansbeck Viking said:
Don’t shoot the messenger but my mag cousin reckons that Ashley will still be involved with the club, advertising, match day revenue etc but Stavely will be doing the day to day running of the club with Saudi investment but still owing money to Ashley. It sounds a bit similar to when Short sold the club to Donald.

Not my words, before anyone starts!
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Is he guessing or has he got a source 🤔
 
Banks said:
You've always wanted Man Utd as your rivals
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It'll be Man City as our rivals as they will up their game in an effort to compete with us. And the thing is, our owner is the future King of Saudi Arabia and the Man City owners will have to bow to him when they meet. Looking forward to Oil Classico already.
 
Gorillacop said:
It’s the intent to be the best our club can be instead of being a platform to advertise his shit shops while trousering the PL tv money making minimum investment in the infrastructure and squad to get by.

I’m not expecting anything out of the new owners other than wanting to have a club that invests in all of the above. I’m well aware of fair play rules.
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I think this will certainly give you the opportunity to compete in the top half but I wouldn't expect anthing like the 90s which is evident that's what most of your supporters are expecting looking at Twitter
 
Gorillacop said:
Rocky if it didn’t bother you why comment lad? If you are a NUFC or SAFC either way either fan would be f***ing livid, stop denying it man, it’s just football.

What a f***ing deal for us, Ashley away and owned by the richest bloke we could get, I’m buzzing, you’d be.
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It's a forum and it's being discussed, I was commenting and explaining how my feelings have changed. Now that may not interest you which quite frankly I couldn't give a fuck about.
I'd be happy if it was us but it's not so I couldn't care less.
 
A soon as we get taken over by this (possibly) Q.P.R type pretence, we're goosed, I think.
Ashley might be hated and fans might think he's been some kind of devil but he kept the club running as a club and not as sugar daddy handout hobbyist venture.

If we get taken over by these super billionaire owners and we simply buy our way along by paying ridiculous wages to get the best available players who want to come to the north east for that wage (likely only for many)...all you'll get will be mercenaries who will simply take the pee and likely leave the club in a big old plastic mess with plastic fans leaving in droves after jumping on the bandwagon. All this within 5 years or so.....potentially.

Ashley learned quickly and managed to steady this rocking, holed ship, after the mess he found it in. He then learned much more about how easily you can become despised if you dare to try and run it within its means whilst not bowing down to fan messiah's who were employed as managers.

We had a football club under Ashley, albeit tightly run....but we had/have a club where players clearly want to play, in the main and were/are paid decent wages to do so, regardless whether they don't match many top premier clubs.

The fans want Ashley gone and many don't seem to care who takes over, just as long as Ashley is gone. The hatred has become more and more fuelled over the years because Ashley would not be backed into a corner on spending and being dictated to by certain groups of fans and/or so called footballing/managerial, messiah's.

Let's put this into simple perspective.
If these billionaires come in and buy for the sake of hobbyist buying, within the rules or the loophole bypassing of them to give the fans and themselves some flamboyant football with a manager to match, they will be revered just like Ashley was at first.

If they do well with so called, blank cheques they can hire and fire as many messiah's as they wish to and there will be very little fan discontent, because it will be taken over by fan anticipation as to who the next messiah type is to come in to replace the previous.

And so on.

If the super billionaires fail to provide the necessaries to challenge at the top and merely patch the boat to keep afloat, they will soon be under the very same hatred Ashley was and is under.

I'm mid fifties and I've been a Newcastle fan just about all of my life from a bairn. I've seen the good the bad and the absolute ugly of the club and its ways and nothing changed for me because my focus was on Newcastle United football club from the ground, not from inside a rare to never to be seen chairperson's office or committee room of people.

I can be as excited watching Newcastle United in the non-league as I could watching overpaid prima donna type players strutting their stuff in spurts, but I'd get more wholehearted enjoyment about my fanatical support for the grass roots....ish of the football rather than the cry baby antics and wants, plus disloyalty of overpaid cry babies, in many aspects.

It sickens me to the stomach seeing players earning sickening amounts of money just for kicking a football about and then having the audacity to actually whine about not being paid what they're worth or thinking they can upset the applecart (player or manager) when people don't bow down to them.

I'm ranting on here.

In a nutshell we all want top rank football and we all want to see exciting football, plus transfer windows make for exciting waits at times.... but I want a fair game.
I want Newcastle United to be able to compete against every other club on revenue accrued just like any other club should do and not be run on anything other than that.
This means that those clubs who can wheel and deal the best and spot the best talent and attract the best/bigger crowds, do potentially better by those means and not by massive handouts from TV, unfairly or sugar daddies spending way and above what the club can ever generate legitimately..

I am happy with Ashley because we are stable under him. I'd like a bit better football but so would many fans of most clubs.
Whoever takes over will do what they do and I'll still be a Newcastle United fan and supporter and back anyone that gives their best for the club.........but..........?


Only time will tell on this one but let's see what the devil decides.
 
frot said:
And yet, this 'richest bloke we could get' still needed to wait for the price to come down, needs a loan and has only actually bought 80%.

You should just be buzzing that you've got rid of Ashley. I'd be waiting for details about who is actually involved in this.
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It’s widely reported there will be significant investment in the club, on top of getting rid of Ashley its the cherry on the cake for us.Lets see how it goes , for now personally I’m happy with us moving on and having our fans hating the club at times.Im buzzing for now as on the face of it for now it looks positive.
 
Nukehasslefan said:
A soon as we get taken over by this (possibly) Q.P.R type pretence, we're goosed, I think.
Ashley might be hated and fans might think he's been some kind of devil but he kept the club running as a club and not as sugar daddy handout hobbyist venture.

If we get taken over by these super billionaire owners and we simply buy our way along by paying ridiculous wages to get the best available players who want to come to the north east for that wage (likely only for many)...all you'll get will be mercenaries who will simply take the pee and likely leave the club in a big old plastic mess with plastic fans leaving in droves after jumping on the bandwagon. All this within 5 years or so.....potentially.

Ashley learned quickly and managed to steady this rocking, holed ship, after the mess he found it in. He then learned much more about how easily you can become despised if you dare to try and run it within its means whilst not bowing down to fan messiah's who were employed as managers.

We had a football club under Ashley, albeit tightly run....but we had/have a club where players clearly want to play, in the main and were/are paid decent wages to do so, regardless whether they don't match many top premier clubs.

The fans want Ashley gone and many don't seem to care who takes over, just as long as Ashley is gone. The hatred has become more and more fuelled over the years because Ashley would not be backed into a corner on spending and being dictated to by certain groups of fans and/or so called footballing/managerial, messiah's.

Let's put this into simple perspective.
If these billionaires come in and buy for the sake of hobbyist buying, within the rules or the loophole bypassing of them to give the fans and themselves some flamboyant football with a manager to match, they will be revered just like Ashley was at first.

If they do well with so called, blank cheques they can hire and fire as many messiah's as they wish to and there will be very little fan discontent, because it will be taken over by fan anticipation as to who the next messiah type is to come in to replace the previous.

And so on.

If the super billionaires fail to provide the necessaries to challenge at the top and merely patch the boat to keep afloat, they will soon be under the very same hatred Ashley was and is under.

I'm mid fifties and I've been a Newcastle fan just about all of my life from a bairn. I've seen the good the bad and the absolute ugly of the club and its ways and nothing changed for me because my focus was on Newcastle United football club from the ground, not from inside a rare to never to be seen chairperson's office or committee room of people.

I can be as excited watching Newcastle United in the non-league as I could watching overpaid prima donna type players strutting their stuff in spurts, but I'd get more wholehearted enjoyment about my fanatical support for the grass roots....ish of the football rather than the cry baby antics and wants, plus disloyalty of overpaid cry babies, in many aspects.

It sickens me to the stomach seeing players earning sickening amounts of money just for kicking a football about and then having the audacity to actually whine about not being paid what they're worth or thinking they can upset the applecart (player or manager) when people don't bow down to them.

I'm ranting on here.

In a nutshell we all want top rank football and we all want to see exciting football, plus transfer windows make for exciting waits at times.... but I want a fair game.
I want Newcastle United to be able to compete against every other club on revenue accrued just like any other club should do and not be run on anything other than that.
This means that those clubs who can wheel and deal the best and spot the best talent and attract the best/bigger crowds, do potentially better by those means and not by massive handouts from TV, unfairly or sugar daddies spending way and above what the club can ever generate legitimately..

I am happy with Ashley because we are stable under him. I'd like a bit better football but so would many fans of most clubs.
Whoever takes over will do what they do and I'll still be a Newcastle United fan and supporter and back anyone that gives their best for the club.........but..........?


Only time will tell on this one but let's see what the devil decides.
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Why don’t you write all that shite on a mag message board 😂
 
Scotty 1978 said:
Is he guessing or has he got a source 🤔
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His boss has a box at St James’ told him. I spoke to him yesterday expecting him to be over the moon about it but said it’s not plain sailing as being reported. It does sound a bit similar to our situation when Short sold the club. I’m only saying what he said mate, not claiming to be itk!
 
kingkeane said:
I think this will certainly give you the opportunity to compete in the top half but I wouldn't expect anthing like the 90s which is evident that's what most of your supporters are expecting looking at Twitter
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it’s natural man that fans start dreaming, in reality you are right but you too in our exact situation would start to dream eh?
 
Grilled Reuben said:
It'll be Man City as our rivals as they will up their game in an effort to compete with us. And the thing is, our owner is the future King of Saudi Arabia and the Man City owners will have to bow to him when they meet. Looking forward to Oil Classico already.
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Poor attempt.

So minted it's took him 4 years and has his broker take a loan out?

Far too early to get cocky.
 
Banks said:
I think that's wishful thinking on your part.

I think Sunderland Boro would become the new derby personally. You'd be the new Boro.

You've always wanted Man Utd as your rivals. Do you think we'd sell 49k to watch you beat us every season. I don't
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I know you are taking the piss, however I will bite, nothing gets the buzz close to NUFC V SAFC , nothing.
 
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