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#DonaldOut

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Wood Green Mackem said:
that's the January transfer window gone then. Great stuff. This should have waited until after the window shut imho.

any last glimmer of hope for this season now gone, and more serious problems coming up.
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I agree entirely.
Last season, even with hindsight he did enough to get us promoted. Made too many signings infact.

I presume he spoke with JR Pre season and they identified players who weren't good enough, but really our main issue this season is not having a goal Scorer.

If we fix this in January then I'm still hopeful we will be a success under SD.

He's been here a relatively short time, 3 transfer windows, and hasn't he sorted us out financially too? Or is that all bullshit?
 
offmenut said:
I agree entirely.
Last season, even with hindsight he did enough to get us promoted. Made too many signings infact.

I presume he spoke with JR Pre season and they identified players who weren't good enough, but really our main issue this season is not having a goal Scorer.

If we fix this in January then I'm still hopeful we will be a success under SD.

He's been here a relatively short time, 3 transfer windows, and hasn't he sorted us out financially too? Or is that all bullshit?
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I'd be shocked if we're turning a profit. Maybe the losses aren't as bad as they were, as we've been slashing everything that's not nailed down (including that goalscorer we so badly missed in the second half last year.) I don't think the financial info has been disclosed publicly, but Stuart isn't shy about saying how many of his millions he's put into the operating costs.

Now, it's so sorted that he's needed to borrow 10 million pounds.

So, maybe? But doubtful?
 
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That statement is all about PP and nowt about any lies etc from SD, or owt bad from him.
It's about PP replacing a defender for a defender, when we were playing 3 at the back anyway.
Strange statement.
It needed to say everything wrong with SD, not PP. From that statement it appears the only thing they don't like atm is the appointment of PP.
Or am I missing something?
 
It's a start.Good to see the fan group and fanzines (some of which we've all been critical of) initially wanting to pull together.

My only concern being some of them have big egos and when it comes to an actual protest it require a few to go with a consensus for once.

Anyway,off to read some Marx and getv all political n that.
 
Adzy said:
Isn't there a sellout allocation of 4000 going down to Donny? Think they could've maybe timed this announcement a bit better....calling for someone to go but then backing the team with a full allocation could be seen as a bit of a mixed message. Don't disagree with the sentiment or mean to be critical or anything but just think it could've been timed better.
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Then that 4k need to represent
 
offmenut said:
I agree entirely.
Last season, even with hindsight he did enough to get us promoted. Made too many signings infact.

I presume he spoke with JR Pre season and they identified players who weren't good enough, but really our main issue this season is not having a goal Scorer.

If we fix this in January then I'm still hopeful we will be a success under SD.

He's been here a relatively short time, 3 transfer windows, and hasn't he sorted us out financially too? Or is that all bullshit?
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It’s bullshit. He’s making the same mistakes previous owner made but has no money to make mistakes, signing players that aren’t good enough, this squad is not good enough to get top 6 and it wasn’t from the start of the season, i don’t know what people see.
 
offmenut said:
That statement is all about PP and nowt about any lies etc from SD, or owt bad from him.
It's about PP replacing a defender for a defender, when we were playing 3 at the back anyway.
Strange statement.
It needed to say everything wrong with SD, not PP. From that statement it appears the only thing they don't like atm is the appointment of PP.
Or am I missing something?
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The hashtag campaign in of itself probably won't get PP removed but it's a decent start.

Donald will only respond when it's starts to really cost him money... Don't spend money at SAFC
 
GBSAFC said:
The hashtag campaign in of itself probably won't get PP removed but it's a decent start.

Donald will only respond when it's starts to really cost him money... Don't spend money at SAFC
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All for protesting and I don't like people throwing the term "mag" about, but nah I'm not going to "boycoutt the club" directly.

The fall in ticket sales, DD cancellations and SAFCSee revenue will hurt him naturally.
 
flusheding said:
Realistically we aren't going to get a sugar daddy owner willing to just chuck millions at the club are we?

So the academy is most likely going to be scaled down category wise or closed and we'll have to do something with the stadium as it'll cost too much to run in league 1.

We also need mostly a whole new first 11 and then a new manager and back room staff, so paying off Parkinson and paying the new lot to come here.

Where is this money going to come from? Any new owners coming in will surely want to see some sort of return so will turn any money put into the club as debt owed to them.

As much as Donald isn't putting much money in, is that better or worse than the club racking up huge debts?
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I think the one thing the majority of are on agreement is that donald isn't very good. The manner in which it should be ran however is not one that we all would agree upon. Many are pissed of because he doesnt have the money to run this club, I believe you shouldnt have to have money to run the club just intelligence and strategy. The club should run itself financially.
pwsafc said:
It’s on Twitter, don’t think a owner is going to listen to that much. Plus you can’t just get a owner out, you need someone to buy the club first
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Which isn't a problem as he has said many times that there are many people willing to buy it at a profit to himself, right?
The Rat said:
you're insulting the SAFC fan base, and over a 100 years of proud history for this charlatan. Its shameful.
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I think that's a touch harsh mate, the lad is getting the same type of stick you recieved when they took over purely stating they were not right for the club.
Mr.Thunders said:
It's a start.Good to see the fan group and fanzines (some of which we've all been critical of) initially wanting to pull together.

My only concern being some of them have big egos and when it comes to an actual protest it require a few to go with a consensus for once.

Anyway,off to read some Marx and getv all political n that.
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I think it's interesting that they are spearheading this after what some of them have wrote and what some of them involved personally thought about the earlier naysayers.
 
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MrOompapa said:
All for protesting and I don't like people throwing the term "mag" about, but nah I'm not going to "boycoutt the club" directly.

The fall in ticket sales, DD cancellations and SAFCSee revenue will hurt him naturally.
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The situation is getting pretty desperate... Die hard fans are talking cancelling DDS

People getting mugged off by half truths ,lies and empty promises after years of goss mismanagement is a dangerous game these spivs have played.

Feel like the club is fighting to survive... This thing has become proper existential
 
SandDancer said:
All this talk him needing to find the money to pay the loan back. Would he have actually spent much of the money yet? What's he spent on so far, fixing a lift? I'd imagine the bulk of it would be sitting in a bank account at the moment, no?
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The loan will have been granted on the terms that the club needs to buy x, y and z which are now outstanding. You wouldn’t loan money to sit it in a bank account, it will have been earmarked for whatever - wages, bills, repairs, transfers, whatever. So the money will be gone by now, or the majority of it will be.
 
safccfas said:
My insomnia has had a benefit tonight. Managed to read all 25 pages in one go!

So my take on all this is we have two likely outcomes....

1 - The club continues as is and will be in administration by the start of next season if not before. SD doesn’t have the money and once parachute payments stop and ticket revenue plummets we become unsustainable as a business.

2 - FFP have played SD and will pick up the club for a ‘minimal’ fee if that’s what they actually want. I’m not convinced it is as I’m worn down by over 40 years following us and these things tend not to work out for us (God I so hope I’m wrong).

I have a very bad feeling that we’ll start next season on minus 15 points.... And I’m normally a happy clapper ☹☹
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The club would not be in administration by the end of the season. Plenty of things need to happen for admin, including owing a large enough debt that hasn’t been settled for a long enough period for said company (usually always HMRC) to take us to court over it. If a company takes us to court, it’s to get a winding up petition, and the outcome of that is generally they don’t get their money back, or get a small portion of it, so it really is a last resort as everyone loses. So administration is a culmination of several years of mismanagement, if not longer. Do you think Bolton and Bury happened overnight? Even if we were in major financial problems it would take years for it to manifest itself into something of the scale of administration - is maybe be worried for the 21/22 season but not before.
 
pwsafc said:
There is nothing in any of the posts defending him you absolute tool, you need to think before you spout your shite. I said he needs to admit his mistake and sack PP, bet you weren’t whinging last season when we were near the top and got to wembley

Because it’s a shot term that means nothing coming from fans who wouldn’t have a clue about running a football club
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Can I ask you, what do you, or Stewart Donald, know about running a football club? Let alone running one successfully?
 
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