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Racist supporters

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Plank said:
It's what happens when neanderthals manage to get their hands on tickets. We have loads of scumbags following us unfortunately.
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i have to disagree. the vast majority of people who follow us away are decent folk just wanting to watch a game of footy and a day out. not saying there isn't that element mind, there are some bellends. it does seem to be more prevalent when it's an 'easy' away game with a big allocation but that'd be the same for most clubs.
 

Northumberland Rocks said:
If this is true we need to stamp it out.

In this day and age it is just unacceptable. We all need to seak up if we hear it.
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Should just stamp it out, when it ever its heard, that's not just at supporter levels, but at all levels of the game, from the fan to the boardroom, to the very Governance
of the game itself right up-to FIFA.
 
scott934 said:
Definitely said some stupid things in the heat of the moment. That's the point of "the heat of the moment", it's out of character.
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I may have done it as a youngun but not as an adult. There are plenty of things to say - cheating whatever, dirty whatever I just don’t think there’s a need to throw the race card in. I get that you’re saying actions you take in everyday life matter more but if it was your friend, son, daughter , wife or even you you’d not be thinking ‘well they’re maybe just a bit cross they probably don’t mean it’. It’s just not right. Not having a go btw I admire your honestly but I’m close to a few black and south asian lads and I’ve seen harder men than me cry over this kind of stuff.
 
CissesUnderpants19 said:
Should just stamp it out, when it ever its heard, that's not just at supporter levels, but at all levels of the game, from the fan to the boardroom, to the very Governance
of the game itself right up-to FIFA.
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Dont disagre, but if we as supporters hear it we need to speak out. If it happens and someone speaks out the rest of us need to back them up. Self policing.

In my experience the vast vast majority of SAFC supporters are incredibly decent. However I think Brexit has a lot to do with the rise of stupidity.
 
sir rowell cummins said:
I may have done it as a youngun but not as an adult. There are plenty of things to say - cheating whatever, dirty whatever I just don’t think there’s a need to throw the race card in. I get that you’re saying actions you take in everyday life matter more but if it was your friend, son, daughter , wife or even you you’d not be thinking ‘well they’re maybe just a bit cross they probably don’t mean it’. It’s just not right. Not having a go btw I admire your honestly but I’m close to a few black and south asian lads and I’ve seen harder men than me cry over this kind of stuff.
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Aye I'm not defending it, it's obviously wrong, I'm just saying I think if it's a reactionary one time comment said in frustration it's not the same as some bellend making monkey noises or constantly saying racist shit. Maybe I have a tendency to try to understand people too much tbh.
 
turbo bratwurst said:
I don't go to as many games as I could living in North wales but ventured to todays game today. Some utterly crackers language/baheavour from 50/60 somethings who should know better clearly going to matches for a bit of escapism from general life and vent their right wing frustration on black players... Absolutely disgusting comments from an old fella behind me relating to the shrewsbury centre half and the 2 women next to him continued to rant incoherently for 90 minutes about fantasies relating to stabbing opposition players with a stanley knife. These weren't kids they were middle aged folk, utterly bizarre and shameful.
Granted the result wasnt the best but sunderland shouldve got 3 points today and were very unlucky yet loads of folk shouted abuse at the players for 90 minutes when something didnt come off. I used to love going to games and have had some fond memories over the last 30 years of supporting sunderland... perhaps I was just unlucky with wom I was sat by


what section of my comments are shambolic, do you condone racism?
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There are tonnes of utter spenks follow football. Sadly, we aren’t immune from our own collection of these special creatures.

I don’t blame the OP for not saying owt tbh. Too many nutters about these days it’s easier just to keep schtum, rightly or wrongly.
 
Northumberland Rocks said:
Dont disagre, but if we as supporters hear it we need to speak out. If it happens and someone speaks out the rest of us need to back them up. Self policing.

In my experience the vast vast majority of SAFC supporters are incredibly decent. However I think Brexit has a lot to do with the rise of stupidity.
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RR agrees with you,
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, and do i its kicked up a hornets nest, and given permission two people who had been silence before permission to speak, and by not recognising that fact, it doesn't fully bring the whole issue of the problem on board, we all mistaken thought the problem had went away, but we failed to remember the world before Steven Lawrence was murdered. and got used to the world as it was we became complacence as a sociality, that's the truth of it.
 
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CissesUnderpants19 said:
RR agrees with you,
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, and do i its kicked up a hornets nest, and given permission two people who had been silence before permission to speak, and by not recognising that fact, it doesn't fully bring the whole issue of the problem on board, we all mistaken thought the problem had went away, but we failed to remember the world before Steven Lawrence was murdered. and got used to the world as it was we became complacence as a sociality, that's the truth of it.
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...And the Stanley Unwin award for 2019 goes to... CissesUnderpants19. ;)
 
Morse said:
...And the Stanley Unwin award for 2019 goes to... CissesUnderpants19. ;)
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My thank you for this award.. first time i have won something on here 🤩

Secondly given i have researched the name of this award, which part did you disagree with ?
 
As someone who used to have some questionable views (I still didn't voice them to people) I would say challenge them and most will agree with you. Its disgusting to abuse players bbased on their race and even worse make comments about harming others . Get it on film and shame the scumbags
 
CissesUnderpants19 said:
My thank you for this award.. first time i have won something on here 🤩

Secondly given i have researched the name of this award, which part did you disagree with ?
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I didn’t disagree with it, I was making a rather weak crack about the rather confusing grammatical flow of the post.
In other words, it was bordering on gibberish. :lol: It didn’t read like one of your usual posts.
Stanley Unwin spoke in a made-up yet basically understandable bastardised English, hence the reference.

Sorry, I meant no offence! :p
 
Morse said:
I didn’t disagree with it, I was making a rather weak crack about the rather confusing grammatical flow of the post.
In other words, it was bordering on gibberish. :lol: It didn’t read like one of your usual posts.
Stanley Unwin spoke in a made-up yet basically understandable bastardised English, hence the reference.

Sorry, I meant no offence! :p
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None taken, i was just interested to see if you did 😉, to be fair i was in the middle of going backward and forwards between the thread and the RR Article at the same time, borderline gibberish is an improvement from my very first post on this forum :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
 
The original issue from Saturday's game at Shrewsbury. The fan should have reported the incident to Kick It Out which deals with all issues of potential racist abuse in football grounds.
Myself I am a grassroots referee as well as an avid football fan.
Last season I was at a Shrewsbury v Portsmouth game when I was reported to Kick It Out by a Shrewsbury fan. Yes I dont deny that I sang what is known as "The Biscuit Tin Song" which although the song uses the word Gyppo it is not intended to be offensive to the Romany or Travelling Community and refers to a Portsmouth player with a ponytail.
I along with approximately 100 other fans sang the song. Unfortunately for me I was about 20 yards away from the main group singing and got reported.
I finished up a few weeks later at a Police Station giving a statement. I was taken to court, but the racial charge fortunately for me was dropped. I was still getting charged with Intentionally causing, alarm, distress or harassment in a football ground and intentionally using threatening words or behaviour.
I pleaded NOT guilty to both charges and appeared back in court in late September. Fortunately I had a first class solicitor and I was found NOT GUILTY on either charge.
My point to all football fans is support your club in the right way and dont say anything which might cause upset to others especially in the current climate. As if I had been found guilty The Police were after giving me a five year banning order.
I was suspended from attending games after March 23rd 2019 and although I am now free to I so far haven't. As the whole experience has mortified me.
 
Laidback Jack said:
I've said before we have quite a few unfortunately that follow Sunderland. Often hear Anti-Islamic comments and words like 'Pa*i' and a few others.

If you challenge them and say its unacceptable they just threaten you or even worse get physical. I said a few weeks back on a thread on here I heard a lad saying 'Black this' 'Black that' down at Everton about 3 years ago. Think it may have been directed towards Lukaku. He then started singing 'Nananana Jermain Defoe' so I pointed out that Defoe was okay to be black because he plays for Sunderland? I got nothing but a volley of abuse and threatened with violence from him and his mate who was also just as foul.

Sometimes I shudder at other people's opinions of Sunderland.
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Being racist towards only certain black people whilst loving others is called casual racism, a true racist would have hated Defoe as well. Casual racism is harder to stamp out imo.
 
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