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Ashes 5 test - The Oval

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The Rat said:
He wasn't though, thats a lie, he has been one of the top 5 run scorers in county cricket over the last 2 seasons, you are wrong about that.

Your logic for picking Sibley is the same logic for picking Denly

and the average of your wicket keeper has no relevance to the average of Dominic Sibley or Crawley

You compare it the averages of the likes of Foakes and co in CC,nobody else.

I think the confusion in your post is probably influenced by the confusion in the selectors in all fairness
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I get your point, but I think the main reason I would argue giving Sibley or someone a run over Denley is age to be honest. Sibley is 24 so there is plenty of scope for him to work and improve. With Denley he is already 33 (only a year younger than Alistair Cook), there is little long term investment and future planning there.

I have no idea if Sibley is good enough for test level but someone more of his profile should be given a go alongside Burns imo.
 

The Rat said:
I mean burns averages 2 more than Denly

Yet he is viewed as lock in

Strange
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He averages just under 29 as opposed to Denly's 24 - appreciate that's not a huge difference but Burns has shown he can grit it out and score runs. He is averaging 40 as opposed to Denly's 25 in this series.
 
cooky said:
I get your point, but I think the main reason I would argue giving Sibley or someone a run over Denley is age to be honest. Sibley is 24 so there is plenty of scope for him to work and improve. With Denley he is already 33 (only a year younger than Alistair Cook), there is little long term investment and future planning there.

I have no idea if Sibley is good enough for test level but someone more of his profile should be given a go alongside Burns imo.
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Yeah don’t disagree mate at all

That wasn’t my point not even saying I’d pick denly

Just disagreeing with the point that we aren’t trying run scorers from CC, Denly and burns are examples of we are

If he got a couple 50s here I’d probs take him on the winter tours as he can play in numerous positions but I’d be more inclined to go with someone younger too
 
If we can draw the series (don't think we will) after winning the World Cup, I'd be alright with that, although it would mask the reality of the situation somewhat
 
The Rat said:
Yeah don’t disagree mate at all

That wasn’t my point not even saying I’d pick denly

Just disagreeing with the point that we aren’t trying run scorers from CC, Denly and burns are examples of we are

If he got a couple 50s here I’d probs take him on the winter tours as he can play in numerous positions but I’d be more inclined to go with someone younger too
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Yeah fair enough, agree with that. It's not as simple as just going down the list of averages either agreed. What ground do they play on? What is their defensive game like? They should be as important. Is it more impressive to make average of 40 say on green tops every other game or 50 on flat batting tracks.
 
cooky said:
Yeah fair enough, agree with that. It's not as simple as just going down the list of averages either agreed. What ground do they play on? What is their defensive game like? They should be as important. Is it more impressive to make average of 40 say on green tops every other game or 50 on flat batting tracks.
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Agreed yep
 
Steak Pie said:
First time I've seen that batting line-up on a scorecard, and Jesus it looks piss.

We're one down and this is the last specialist batsman until Buttler comes in at 6/7.

:lol: :lol:
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Aye it’s a bid mad but hope it’s a one off game to try n win

Not sure why we can’t just have 4 bowlers and rely on leach
 
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