vinegar hill
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You’d think we’d never played in England before.
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England v Ireland, One Off Test
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Mainze
Striker
We won’t be, but getting around 400 with this batting line up would be astonishing.
The Voice Of Reason
Heaven Branch
The Snowman
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dont see sense in a nightwatchman, means its likely we'll be about 10-1 in the morning plus our decent batsmen are moved one down the order...woakes at 8 for example
Liverpool Beachball
Striker
38 degrees today 
Agreed. If he can't bat at 3 AND captain the side, then take the captaincy off him and let him concentrate on scoring runs
smoker
Striker
We have 'decent batsmen' ?
Looks like he did his job. 6 dot balls.
Said for a long time we need openers who can just hang about and take the shine off the ball. A night watchman might inadvertently be our best chance of achieving this.
Voice of fair play
Striker
In this side with the Ashes coming up we curremtly have a opening batsman who does not even open for his county and a number 3 who with all respect has done very little to justify his selection.
We have had a team that for the last 5 years have struggled in the top 3 postitions yet still after all these years our most experienced and talented batsman refuses to move up the order and take more responsibility.
Root should bat 3 or even open allowing Roy to bat on the middle order
smoker
Striker
There's a certain element of attrition and fortuitous selections in that.
Bri
Striker
But he still took the wickets.
The Snowman
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i honestly think its time for root to adopt the alistair cook role
Boo
Striker
The top three are a real worry. Burns and Denly don't look like Ashes-standard batsmen.
Voice of fair play
Striker
Exactly how many years of struggle in the top 3 do we need, how many new players at 3 and openers failing do we need before Root moves up to either open or 3.
I agree it will also give Roy more of a chance down the order rather than unfairly sicking him straight into the lions den.
I agree it will also give Roy more of a chance down the order rather than unfairly sicking him straight into the lions den.
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smoker
Striker
Root has scored 180 opening the batting. His wanting to bat at 4 not 3 is laughably 'first world' considering some of the issues facing the team.
Complete contrast with Bangers stepping up for Durham.
The Snowman
Central Defender
because the first wicket usually falls instantly, he virtually opens anyway, so why not step up
Voice of fair play
Striker
Yes we have a massive problem have done for years, yet to solve that problem we throw rookie after rookie at that problem.
Someone somewhere should tell him he has to do it.
vinegar hill
Striker
I thought this before this fiasco, but we'll get mullered off the Aussies, who are nothing special themselves.
I'd keep Root at 4
smoker
Striker
Finn, Woakes, Onions or whoever else was in better form would have taken the wickets if he hadn't played.
For example, 11 wickets in the last Ashes, at an average of 48, 9 wickets in the preceding home series Vs WI at 37. How many times, prior to getting dropped in SL, did he take a place from a spinner, on subcontinent trips?
That said he has been a great bowler for England in the main.
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