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Cricket World Cup 2019

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jackpunch said:
Forecast shite for Thurs pm, better Friday although still plenty of showers about.

I'm finishing at 12.30 on Thurs, so you can guarantee it'll start pissing down at about 1.30.
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BBC forecast has less than 15% chance of rain in each hour block before 4pm, and 25% in each block thereafter.

Should be fine on that basis.

It does make 'bat first' a less obvious choice if the forecast worsens though.
 

Voice of fair play said:
And it a lot harder scoring a 60 ball 100 than a 200 ball 50.



Maybe it’s not as easy as other posters are making out then?
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What?

NorthCountryBoy said:
BBC forecast has less than 15% chance of rain in each hour block before 4pm, and 25% in each block thereafter.

Should be fine on that basis.

It does make 'bat first' a less obvious choice if the forecast worsens though.
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A slight worry when you consider when we played them the other week, in exact same conditions as this appears


I honestly not sure what I would do, I guess if its 10:30 and its those conditions you might have to put them in


The 10:30 starts have been a f***ing ridiculous idea mind, I know why they do, but you want the games going on into the night so more people can watch, at home, in pubs etc
 
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The Rat said:
What?




A slight worry when you consider when we played them the other week, in exact same conditions as this appears


I honestly not sure what I would do, I guess if its 10:30 and its those conditions you might have to put them in


The 10:30 starts have been a f***ing ridiculous idea mind, I know why they do, but you want the games going on into the night so more people can watch, at home, in pubs etc
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It’s a lot harder scoring quick runs than slow runs, averages in T20 across the board are lower than in tests for example, becuase you have to take more risks.

So why is it easier?
 
Voice of fair play said:
It’s a lot harder scoring quick runs than slow runs, averages in T20 across the board are lower than in tests for example, becuase you have to take more risks.

So why is it easier?
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Who is scoring 60 ball 100s in ODIs? :confused:

Must have missed that one, they are mostly over a run a ball

You can slog from ball one in T20 because there are absolutely no consuquences and its what everyone does

Its not really a controversial statement I am making here like, Ihave really no idea what your point is

ask yourself if you would open with Narine and Chris Lynn in an ODI game and there is your answer. No, because its so so much harder.
 
The Rat said:
What?




A slight worry when you consider when we played them the other week, in exact same conditions as this appears


I honestly not sure what I would do, I guess if its 10:30 and its those conditions you might have to put them in


The 10:30 starts have been a f***ing ridiculous idea mind, I know why they do, but you want the games going on into the night so more people can watch, at home, in pubs etc
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They can in India :rolleyes:

Wish I'd taken Friday off as well now but wanted to save it for some Championship cricket in September before the drought sets in
 
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Who is scoring 60 ball 100s in ODIs? :confused:

Must have missed that one, they are mostly over a run a ball

You can slog from ball one in T20 because there are absolutely no consuquences and its what everyone does

Its not really a controversial statement I am making here like, Ihave really no idea what your point is

ask yourself if you would open with Narine and Chris Lynn in an ODI game and there is your answer. No, because its so so much harder.
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But surely T20 cricket is soo much harder for some players such as Purjara number 3 for India good test player but does not play T20 as harder for him


The point is straightforward diffrent skills are needed for a diffrent format and difffent people are better at adapting their skills.

Some T20 players you are correct could not open in ODI or tests, and some test players and ODI players would struggle to open in T20.

Isn’t that why diffrent players are picked for diffrent formats?

And to me the best cricketers are the ones that can do all 3, that is a sign of what is harder been able to adapt your game and adjust to a different format.

Really not sure what is confusing about that principle.

You can’t say generally say one format is soo much harder as it depends on the individual and what suits them surely?
 
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Voice of fair play said:
But surely T20 cricket is soo much harder for some players such as Purjara number 3 for India good test player but does not play T20 as harder for him


The point is straightforward diffrent skills are needed for a diffrent format and difffent people are better at adapting their skills.

Some T20 players you are correct could not open in ODI or tests, and some test players and ODI players would struggle to open in T20.

Isn’t that why diffrent players are picked for diffrent formats?

And to me the best cricketers are the ones that can do all 3, that is a sign of what is harder been able to adapt your game and adjust to a different format.

Really not sure what is confusing about that principle.

You can’t say generally say one format is soo much harder as it depends on the individual and what suits them surely?
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I am not saying its not a skill, its just nowhere near as difficult as the skills in the other format

the best players at ODI score big runs at massively quick rates

also a lot of the T20 cricket is garbage and a lot is oridnary, I watched some absolutely horrendous games in the IPL but it gets billed as brilliant cricket, when in reality its the crowds and the drama that are brilliant, not the cricket, not saying it wasn't entertainign and good value, but it isn't always top level

The Big bash in Australia is far far worse than our blast quality wise, again its just marketed well

If it was international I'd be more inclined to agree
 
Still maintain they should have had the semis in London rather than f***ing miserable Manchester and Birmingham. Not sure about Thursday but looks fine down there today
 
The Rat said:
I am not saying its not a skill, its just nowhere near as difficult as the skills in the other format

the best players at ODI score big runs at massively quick rates

also a lot of the T20 cricket is garbage and a lot is oridnary, I watched some absolutely horrendous games in the IPL but it gets billed as brilliant cricket, when in reality its the crowds and the drama that are brilliant, not the cricket, not saying it wasn't entertainign and good value, but it isn't always top level

The Big bash in Australia is far far worse than our blast quality wise, again its just marketed well

If it was international I'd be more inclined to agree
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I think it purely depends on the individual mate and their skill set, some will find it easy some diffcult.

You could agrue longer formats are easier for batsman as they have time to play themselves in, rather than having to take risks very soon in their innings, hence higher averages in longer formats.

Of course though I see your point about the skill level required at tests for example.

But will always maintain the best players are the ones who adapt to all 3 formats as that is the hardest thing to do!
 
I've just managed to get 2 tickets through the ICC resale website for the semi final @ Edgbaston. Fantastic! Face value. They have opened up in Platinum, Gold & Silver by the looks. Just kept trying and eventually succeeded. Now I've got to text his mother and ask if he can have the day off school...
 
TheRey said:
Exactly how I see it. T20 has its place and it's very entertaining - but it is a total lottery. You need to be a far better player to hack a longer form of the game IMO
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Lottery is the word. I always think the longer the game is the more likely it is that the best team will come out on top and sheer luck has less say. Of course, there is skill involved in smashing the ball over square leg, that can't be denied and the most skilful players are successful in all formats.
 
Can’t see anything other than a comprehensive India win today. Surprised they went with Bhuvi over Shami though.
 
Bri said:
Lottery is the word. I always think the longer the game is the more likely it is that the best team will come out on top and sheer luck has less say. Of course, there is skill involved in smashing the ball over square leg, that can't be denied and the most skilful players are successful in all formats.
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Lottery is a bit strong imo. There's a bloke on the Yorkie forum that keeps going on about it being a lottery. I always argue that if it is a lottery why are we always shit in it and some counties like Hampshire and lancs fair much better? Surely by law if averages we should have had some "luck" to at least get close after what 15 years of failure in the format? Yet you see the same teams regularly at finals day. There is definitely some skill to it.
 
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