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Charlie Methven on metro radio

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TBH Muffin was the one calling anyone who dare be critical of the way we were playing. Names were cowards, chicken etc. Wasn't hard to work out how this season was going to pan out
 

ExileBFG said:
Basically says you can’t say that Sunderland deserve to go up because we are a bigger club than Charlton because on the evidence of Wembley attendance we aren’t as we sold 34k and they sold 40k. Adds to that our fans were quiet in comparison to there’s. Then the rest is just saying we all need to dust ourselves down, it’s been a failure but need to crack on rather than sulk.
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I don't give a fuck what anyone says, but he's being a bellend there
 
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Graieb said:
Probably said in the heat of the moment but considering we’ve had 2 trips to the other end of the country in a couple of months and Charlton fans didn’t have to leave their own city, that’s an absolutely mental thing to come out with.
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and a perfect illustration of how out of touch he is with this club. I'm sure there'll be plenty still queuing to climb up his chino-clad arse in The Colliery Tavern though
 
People keep mentioning the atmosphere was canny on Wembley way before the game, so that dispels the myth around the fans being to hungover etc. So what changes from outside the ground to inside the ground? Mates and like minded folk being split up and dotted all over the ground. If the a director of the club is criticising this lack of atmosphere, the first place they should look is themselves and not allocating a few blocks as singing sections, like Charlton did.
 
Not sure I necessarily disagree. Maybe a little harsh about numbers but ultimately he’s right about everything else.

Also, people forget he’s also allowed to be annoyed and that just because we have a perception of the club, doesn’t mean everyone shares it.

At the end of the day there’s fuck all we can do now anyway. Push for next season begins now.
 
So to sum up this thread, the fans say Charlie shouldn't have a dig: it's hard supporting Sunderland because
(a) the team don't give enough to shout about: recent form and formations and negative tactics have been a big disappointment.
(b) we had two expensive trips to Wembley on the back of a lot of expensive away trips etc and money is tight.

No arguments with any of that.

Charlie says what a lot of people trying to run the club in recent years have said: SAFC fans should keep expectations realistic, rather than propagate a NUFC-style 'entitlement culture'. Other 'big clubs' eg Charlton are also trying to bring back the glory days.
He also said losing out on promotion is bad news but we need to turn it around quickly and make sure we are in a place to get on and do better next year.

No arguments with that either.
 
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Mackem Tommy said:
Not sure I necessarily disagree. Maybe a little harsh about numbers but ultimately he’s right about everything else.

Also, people forget he’s also allowed to be annoyed and that just because we have a perception of the club, doesn’t mean everyone shares it.

At the end of the day there’s fuck all we can do now anyway. Push for next season begins now.
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He's right the fans also have to take a look at themselves?
 
JAR7391 said:
I cant argue with what he said at all. The attendance thing was said because the guy asking the questions said we shouldnt be in this division based on club size, he replied saying well look at Charlton, they brought more so club size doesnt matter. Thats the way i took it.

We need a designated singing section if we get to wembo again like Charlton did so everyone who wants to make a noise can. Was too spread out. Overall though our support this season has been class in numbers but absolutely shite in terms of vocal support except for a few games.
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For a one off game? What about average attendances if we want to be more accurate?
 
DJM said:
So to sum up this thread, the fans say Charlie shouldn't have a dig: it's hard supporting Sunderland because
(a) the team don't give enough to shout about: recent form and formations and negative tactics have been a big disappointment.
(b) we had two expensive trips to Wembley on the back of a lot of expensive away trips etc and money is tight.

No arguments with any of that.

Charlie says what a lot of people trying to run the club in recent years have said: SAFC fans should keep expectations realistic, rather than propagate a NUFC-style 'entitlement culture'. Other 'big clubs' eg Charlton are also trying to bring back the glory days.
He also said losing out on promotion is bad good news but we need to turn it around quickly and make sure we are in a place to get on and do better next year.

No arguments with that either.
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What have us, the fans asked for that wasn’t a realistic expectation?

Getting promoted from the position we were in was perfectly realistic, only a fool would say otherwise.
 
Atmosphere all season has been shite despite the good attendance’s.Reason being the football has been absolutely shite bar 6 games and I can honestly say I’ve not enjoyed it one bit .So disjointed ,despite the big effort from the players .
Manger isn’t good enough and something’s been missing all season.
 
DJM said:
So to sum up this thread, the fans say Charlie shouldn't have a dig: it's hard supporting Sunderland because
(a) the team don't give enough to shout about: recent form and formations and negative tactics have been a big disappointment.
(b) we had two expensive trips to Wembley on the back of a lot of expensive away trips etc and money is tight.

No arguments with any of that.

Charlie says what a lot of people trying to run the club in recent years have said: SAFC fans should keep expectations realistic, rather than propagate a NUFC-style 'entitlement culture'. Other 'big clubs' eg Charlton are also trying to bring back the glory days.
He also said losing out on promotion is bad good news but we need to turn it around quickly and make sure we are in a place to get on and do better next year.

No arguments with that either.
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Entitlement culture? We just had our lowest ever finish and broke the average attendance record for the league (i think!). On what planet is promotion from league one an unrealistic expectation?
 
Having heard this, he can fuck right off. No consideration of distance, 2nd trip in a few weeks or the fact that people were "quiet" because of the shite being served up on the pitch. Making excuses for the pig circus we've been watching since before Xmas. On your toes Charlie boy, not ours.
 
DJM said:
So to sum up this thread, the fans say Charlie shouldn't have a dig: it's hard supporting Sunderland because
(a) the team don't give enough to shout about: recent form and formations and negative tactics have been a big disappointment.
(b) we had two expensive trips to Wembley on the back of a lot of expensive away trips etc and money is tight.

No arguments with any of that.

Charlie says what a lot of people trying to run the club in recent years have said: SAFC fans should keep expectations realistic, rather than propagate a NUFC-style 'entitlement culture'. Other 'big clubs' eg Charlton are also trying to bring back the glory days.
He also said losing out on promotion is bad news but we need to turn it around quickly and make sure we are in a place to get on and do better next year.

No arguments with that either.
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Charlie said at the beginning of the season he thought we were bigger than Newcastle and big enough to be top half prem.

Now he's saying we aren't big enough to be in the championship and our fans are equally to blame for not going up.

Needs to make his mind up.
 
Mackemjmc said:
Of course they had more fans. They were a tube ride away-it cost us a tube ride PLUS £60-£80 train ride. I only made the play off final but many made it twice in a few weeks.
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I wish. 140 quid for us for both the playoff and the checkatrade.
 
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