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Charlie Methven on metro radio

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offmenut said:
We were one nil up in 30 seconds and still couldn't muster any enthusiasm.
That's not the point though. I'm saying that the pissed folk at TS will have been the more vocal at Wembley.
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I'm not so sure. I was up at 6.30 on Sat...had an hour in the hotel gym, breakfast then walked about 5 mile having a good old look around the City. Started drinking at about 2 and continued till 9. Walked 4 mile to Wembley on the Sunday and had 5 pints then shouted and sang for 90 minutes....and I'm 62. Its about the owners not making contingency plans to facilitate an atmosphere and the manager being a boring twat.
 
I think a lot of people need to man up here like....hes speaking the truth, we werent good enough....we had less there than charlton....they were louder than us.....fsake, 2 months to see what what went wrong, dust ourselves down and get it right next season, simple as that
 
Twisted said:
aye, total shite imo. the crowd were quiet because by and large, thats what they are. had we got all the noisy people in one area it would have been a different story. had we played half decent it would have been different.

saying that, charlton were no better on the pitch but fuck me their crowd was light years ahead of us. but then, they had a drum... but let's not even go down that road eh?
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Aye, it's just an easy excuse "everyone was pissed from Trafalgar". Lots of people didn't turn up there until about 4. It was hard to get drink with many places selling out so a lot just had what they brought with them so in most cases you're talking about 12 cans or something. Some will have been out before then of course, but getting down to London, checking into hotels etc means if you're there by 4 chances are you've not had many before you get there. Let's say some (not all by any means) will have had about 15 pints during the whole afternoon and evening, then went back about midnight, so quite a lot of hours to drink it over. No way will they be falling asleep having had a full night asleep for a game that didn't kick off until 3, and many were having a lot less than 15 pints. Some undoubtedly will have got wankered and fucked themselves for the next day, but not enough to have any audible effect on the atmosphere among 35000 fans.
 
Guinness Guzzler said:
Agreed, I thought we didn't quite get what we needed in terms of style of player, but it was still a good window that should have left us with a cracking chance of automatic promotion. The squad was fine, it's how they were utilised that fucked us. Pretty sure plenty of managers in our league given the same players would have got us promoted comfortably
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aye, we needed a bit more physicality in the middle of the park and got grant leadbitter :lol::lol:

mind i love him me like. great signing.

it's hard like, because looking at the side i think they are all good enough.... and none of them are good enough.

where do we need to improve? everywhere except between the sticks, but i'd also be happy with any of what i consdeir our strongest team starting next year. we just need to add quality and it doesn't matter where [except goal]
 
Guinness Guzzler said:
Aye, it's just an easy excuse "everyone was pissed from Trafalgar". Lots of people didn't turn up there until about 4. It was hard to get drink with many places selling out so a lot just had what they brought with them so in most cases you're talking about 12 cans or something. Some will have been out before then of course, but getting down to London, checking into hotels etc means if you're there by 4 chances are you've not had many before you get there. Let's say some (not all by any means) will have had about 15 pints during the whole afternoon and evening, then went back about midnight, so quite a lot of hours to drink it over. No way will they be falling asleep having had a full night asleep for a game that didn't kick off until 3, and many were having a lot less than 15 pints. Some undoubtedly will have got wankered and fucked themselves for the next day, but not enough to have any audible effect on the atmosphere among 35000 fans.
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It's defianately not the ones at TS who folk should be blaming for lack of atmosphere.
I'd assume that all those chanting at TS were trying to make noise on Wembley
 
offmenut said:
Aye.
He wants to increased turnover for the club.
That's exactly what I see in him.
And he's done a canny job tbh.
Dont see it as underhand or mocking us though.
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Desperate pleas for money i.e fans getting to games , or even you don't have to. Buy a membership and sit in the house at southwick and get priority tickets
It's all about milking people for anything they are worth
What do you think of him mentioning our 34 or 35k supporters compared to Charlton who could have rolled out of bed at dinnertime?
 
Guinness Guzzler said:
Aye, it's just an easy excuse "everyone was pissed from Trafalgar". Lots of people didn't turn up there until about 4. It was hard to get drink with many places selling out so a lot just had what they brought with them so in most cases you're talking about 12 cans or something. Some will have been out before then of course, but getting down to London, checking into hotels etc means if you're there by 4 chances are you've not had many before you get there. Let's say some (not all by any means) will have had about 15 pints during the whole afternoon and evening, then went back about midnight, so quite a lot of hours to drink it over. No way will they be falling asleep having had a full night asleep for a game that didn't kick off until 3, and many were having a lot less than 15 pints. Some undoubtedly will have got wankered and fucked themselves for the next day, but not enough to have any audible effect on the atmosphere among 35000 fans.
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not sunday but at the checkatrade i was quite mortal. as wandering about trying to find some atmosphere and there was some lad trrying to get some chanting going, i went to join him and we were jumping about trying to get some red and white army [or whatever] going. was told to fuck off as it wasn't my actual seat there :confused:

most people just want to sit or stand in silence. i get being nervous as fuck i was myself like but. it was just awful tbh
 
Grumpy Old Man said:
He doesn't own any shares in Sunderland Ltd. Sunderland Ltd is 100% owned by Madrox Partners Ltd, who bought them from Drumaville Ltd for £37m. Madrox Partners is 6% owned by Methven. Madrox Has 1,000 shares of £1 each, issued and fully paid. As of 31 July 2018, Stewart Donald put £5m into Madrox. Anything injected by anyone after that date is not published.
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Very succinct.
So could it be that the limit of his cash investment is actually £1,000 and he got his 6% ownership of Madrox effectively through the sweat of being the PR?
If so, could it also be the case that he is expensed for transport and subsistence/sundry costs. I wonder if he also invoices fees or draws a salary from Madrox?
@Grumpy Old Man
 
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Daks said:
Desperate pleas for money i.e fans getting to games , or even you don't have to. Buy a membership and sit in the house at southwick and get priority tickets
It's all about milking people for anything they are worth
What do you think of him mentioning our 34 or 35k supporters compared to Charlton who could have rolled out of bed at dinnertime?
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Doesn't bother me, as in the context it was to show that Charlton fans, as well as Safc fans think they shouldnt be in league one, taking 40k to Wembley and being a prem club recently.
But I can see that's offended you massively. That and trying to increase safcs turnover by getting (and succeeding may I add) more folk to attend the SOL.
I think you're being a bit ott in your opinion of him, maybe due to a prejudice against posh torys?
 
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The Muffin Man said:
Happy to take my share of the blame, Ive been guilty at times of not singing enough although will add the caveat I have never given our players any stick or ranted on cause we misplaced a pass.
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I'm also guilty of not making enough noise, but in my defence I'm usually sitting in nervous silence waiting to see who will embarrass me next: our half-baked team, our tactically inept manager or our amateurish owners. It seems I hit the trifecta this week.
 
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