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Edit: sorry just seen the IPL thread
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Ashwin mankands Buttler
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The cheating bastard
Edit: sorry just seen the IPL thread
gowlcra
Midfield
Not very often you see that and a game changer with Kings winning
Horrendous from Ashwin, umpire ballsed up though, should’ve been called a dead ball.
As I read somewhere else, imagine the reaction if someone did that Kohli when he was in full flight.
As I read somewhere else, imagine the reaction if someone did that Kohli when he was in full flight.
stanstheman
Full Back
It is the batsman's ( non striker) responsibilty to remain in his/her ground until the normal point of release ( not delivery stride). Buttler was not looking at the bowler and just assumed he going through with the release. Ashwin got nowhere near the normal point of release.
Buttler has been caught like this before and despite a law change since it last happened he has not learned to change his ways.
The Law is classed as Unfair Play alongside damaging the pitch, unfair and dangerous bowling,deliberate distraction,changing the condition of the ball etc
The Law (41.16) states
Non-striker leaving his/her ground early
If the non-striker is out of his/her ground from the moment the ball comes into play to the instant when the bowler would normally have been expected to release the ball, the bowler is permitted to attempt to run him/her out. Whether the attempt is successful or not, the ball shall not count as one in the over. If the bowler fails in an attempt to run out the non-striker, the umpire shall call and signal Dead ball as soon as possible.
Oh come on. He wasn’t trying to gain an advantage at all. When Ashwin stopped, Buttler was in his ground, and he doesn’t have to look at the bowler (he should be following the ball in case a review is needed...)
It’s utterly appalling from Ashwin
stanstheman
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No doubt someone will exact retribution on Ashwin in game time in similar fashion eventually. Regardless of Ashwin's actions Buttler was out as per the Law. As Ashwin is the team captain there was no room for a sensible captain to withdraw the appeal.
And that’s not what cricket has ever been about sadly.
He’s rightly getting pelters
Buttler taking the piss, seeking an unfair advantage by getting a head start on his first run.
It may offend an ancient code of Victorian morality which people associate for some strange reason with the playing fields of Eton, "Gentlemen v Players", Jeeves and Wooster and Raffles the Gentleman Crackster, but what Ashwin did is within the rules, and Buttler walks.
You have a rule book. Play to it, and leave the moralising for church on Sunday.
It may offend an ancient code of Victorian morality which people associate for some strange reason with the playing fields of Eton, "Gentlemen v Players", Jeeves and Wooster and Raffles the Gentleman Crackster, but what Ashwin did is within the rules, and Buttler walks.
What is cricket about, then ?
You have a rule book. Play to it, and leave the moralising for church on Sunday.
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He wasn’t tho. He was in the crease as Ashwin was bowling. Ashwin didn’t have any intention of bowling it, he effectively conned him.
And cricket has generally been about playing hard but fair.
You’ll probably get your way, in twenty years we’ll probably have technology to make sure backing up batsmen don’t move an inch outside of their crease.
What a lovely prospect for the spirit of the game.
When Ashwin stopped, he knew exactly where Buttler would be, and knew that Buttler wouldn't have a leg to stand on within the laws of the game.
Ashwin is a professional, playing for high stakes. So is Buttler. And Buttler should know better.
And Yes, it's a cheap shot, and the paying audience is right to be pissed off, as it deprives them of spectacle - particularly in an age where with Twenty20 cricket is showbiz as much as sport.
And within the rules. But not some faux Victorian moral code which exists nowhere in writing, but is believed to be possessed by all Englishmen and good honourable cricketers.
Unless the cricketing authorities write down that expected code of conduct, and are prepared to enforce it, it doesn't exist.
vinegar hill
Striker
It looks to me that if he'd delivered the ball Buttler would have been in his crease.
He strayed out after he stopped the delivery.
A (unts trick.
He strayed out after he stopped the delivery.
A (unts trick.
If you think it’s ok, you’re one of the few. I personally don’t want a game where every so often bowlers stop in an attempt to deceive batsmen. The over rate is shit enough as it is
By all means, if someone is taking the piss then do them. This was not the case here
Exactly
vinegar hill
Striker
Even if Buttler had been straying out, do it once without taking the bails off as a warning.
Then if he persists then do it, he could then have no complaints.
Then if he persists then do it, he could then have no complaints.
He was't doing any of that, he was in crease when Ashwin was meant to release the ball
Thats the law
Charlie Chimp
Midfield
Bcci and ipl for you. Glad Ashwin is getting caned by everyone
I think its fine personally if he was stealing runs, Buttler wasn't here, which is the big difference.
Fats
Striker
Not really.
Ashwin was within his rights, it leaves a sour taste in the mouth, & I don't agree with what he did. As I say, in my day we warned the batsman, this was fair, but this is what happens when money comes in & ruins sport.
No he wasn’t, it was against the law
The law says has to be out when he expects the ball to be released, he wasn’t
He stopped waited for Buttler to leave
That’s the rule not an opinion, umpire made the mistake it should have been a dead ball
It’s absolutely nothing like the one that happened to Buttler against Sri lanka
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