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Jack Ross

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We can be very frustrating to watch. We never seem to press and attack enough at home to try and blow teams away. I think we have the ability to do this but seem to be playing a system that doesn’t allow it.
 

Ross needs to go his game like... as the months pass we get worse to watch and see to struggle more.

When did we last score 2 in a game?
 
It seems to me that our supporters want us to play entertaining football and would rather lose and play this way, than be dour and have a chance of promotion.
 
It seems to me that our supporters want us to play entertaining football and would rather lose and play this way, than be dour and have a chance of promotion.

As a rule of thumb you play entertaining football, have more than 1 or 2 shots on target in an entire 90 mins, win games and win promotion.

Play like we did yesterday and we won't win enough games to get promotion it's not one or the other.

I'm sure Jack will raise performances levels in the coming weeks and we can look on yesterday's performance as a turning point.
 
This. Very much this.

Ross is by far the best manager we have had for a very long time. Advocaat was decent and Allardyce did a canny job, but neither compare with the potential that Ross has.

Ross has fashioned a successful team out of very little and in the wake of a disastrous period in the club’s history. The players currently at his disposal may never become the same quality as those at Barcelona, Bayern and Madrid, but he has generally optimised their collective performances.

Improvement will be incremental, but with better players each season, he is likely to make an increasingly better job.

He demonstrates the same level of intelligence and ability to articulate his thoughts on football as did Shankly, Clough and Ferguson. SAFC should try to tie this guy to a long contract and convince him that he can create a dynasty here throughout a long-term project.
I couldn't have put it better myself, an excellent post, a rarity on here.
 
Can anyone actually explain to me what our game plan is during games, apart from Dunne(Baldwin) and Flanagan lumping it forward ( usually unsuccessful).
 
It seems to me that our supporters want us to play entertaining football and would rather lose and play this way, than be dour and have a chance of promotion.

I dont think anyone is really saying that. But we've drawn 4 out of our last 8 games, and even in the three games we have won in that time we have got lucky (Bradford, Blackpool, and Wimbledon).

We have fallen into a pattern of trying to defend a 1 goal lead as soon as we get it. Two of those three wins were at home to teams fighting relegation. That approach cost us wins against Charlton, Luton, and Scunthorpe.

The way we are playing is not mximising our chances of winning. It's not a choice between entertaining football and winning. The two usually go hand in hand.
 
As a rule of thumb you play entertaining football, have more than 1 or 2 shots on target in an entire 90 mins, win games and win promotion.

Play like we did yesterday and we won't win enough games to get promotion it's not one or the other.

I'm sure Jack will raise performances levels in the coming weeks and we can look on yesterday's performance as a turning point.
The league is a marathon, not a sprint. Grinding out results when out of form is key. The team should pick up and improve again
 
I dont think anyone is really saying that. But we've drawn 4 out of our last 8 games, and even in the three games we have won in that time we have got lucky (Bradford, Blackpool, and Wimbledon).

We have fallen into a pattern of trying to defend a 1 goal lead as soon as we get it. Two of those three wins were at home to teams fighting relegation. That approach cost us wins against Charlton, Luton, and Scunthorpe.

The way we are playing is not mximising our chances of winning. It's not a choice between entertaining football and winning. The two usually go hand in hand.
No player had a bad game yesterday which tells me the formation or tactics or wrong. We either play two up front, certainly against the poorer teams in this league, or if we have to play 1 up front the midfield has to get much closer and give support to the striker.

IMHO we need to be brave and play Wyke and Grigg.
 
A big difference is that there isn't such a big disconnect between the midfield and the attack with the good teams.

Far too often you hardly see any of our players in the box with a lone striker isolated.
As I said that’s because they are all pushed up into the opposition half. And the opposite winger comes across as a second striker.
For whatever reason we have decided to stay wide and go one on one with people.
The formation has little to do with it it’s the individual instructions. Playing 4-4-2 could easily mean we only have 1 in the box as one forward is passing to the other.
 
2 defeats in the league and some are still f***ing twisting:rolleyes:

You have to wonder why at some point these people don't think to themselves, "Hang on, maybe I'm watching football wrongly? Maybe there are tactics that are just so far over my head that I just don't get it? Maybe it's me that's at fault, not the people I'm criticising?"
 
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