How Sunderland is viewed

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Biscuitz said:
The Bakerloo line is my favourite tube line. I regularly go from Paddington to Baker Street, nice and easy.



I have never actually heard of Consett. I will go and look it up.

I am in the home counties right now and my north east knowledge is minimal
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If you know your western movies, Consett is your typical frontier town. It’s the last outpost of civilisation in the north east and there’s nothing west of it until you reach the Lake District.
 
Ignorance is bliss innit. Talk to some people up here about London and they might think of acid attacks, black kids rioting through the streets a few year back or a soldier being decapitated in broad daylight. Talk to people in London and if they've heard of Sunderland it'll probably be shite football team, backwards people, Brexit, dirty northern monkeys.
 
powburn red said:
One of my lads at uni in ncle..loves it.Visited Sunderland Uni with another of my kids re teacher training(Sunderland was recommended by someone in that field) and have to say was very impressed.Buildings top notch and very new.Passed the uni many times never set foot in place its great.As importantly the staff and general welcome stood out.Perceptions of a city can be misleading and diffcult to shake off..after all Brexit is down to Sunderland!
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Came up with my Lad for an open day at the Uni in September and was impressed by the staff and facilities at the sites down by the river.
 
Dave Herbal said:
If you know your western movies, Consett is your typical frontier town. It’s the last outpost of civilisation in the north east and there’s nothing west of it until you reach the Lake District.
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You paint a nice image of it. I shall forever think of Consett that way.
 
I think some think of the Town as Arizona, TTonic, Baroque, Revs, and not a lot else.

There's nice bars and good alternate routes you can take in the town these days. Sunniside the obvious one. Then there's the likes of The Engine Room, Port of Call, Dun Cow, Hidden seems canny, Life of Riley's still alright. To an extent, I think the town is what you make it.
 
WHD said:
What happened? I've drank regularly in Newcastle for over 20 years and never had any bother.
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I was in Harry's for a meal with a few of the lads, one Sandie, one scouser and one Geordie.

Someone must have overheard us talking, came by the table and called me a Mackem bastard.
 
dangermows said:
How many people go on the piss in Southport over Liverpool? Comparing us to Newcastle is ridiculous though. It should be compared to other major cities like Liverpool, Manchester etc.
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I'm not saying I agree with the comparison at all. The OP was how is it viewed and in my experience that's how we are viewed.
 
Bakerlooline said:
Some good points made on here. Just to pick up on a few...

Regional bias - I’ve mentioned this on other threads before. Since I took a job on the Tyne I’ve been in many discussions and meetings that related to either regional infrastructure projects or regional tourism projects and many others regarding regional funding. Sunderland is generally poorly represented, that’s one issue. The more significant is the constant anti-Sunderland propaganda (dramatic, granted but it’s the best word for it) that comes from the mouths of very senior people within the region. Often it’s said as a joke, but it stays with people who start to believe it. These little jokes and the “banter” (f***ing hate that word) are insidious, it grows and grows until the bants become a perceived reality. How we stop this I have no idea, but it starts by not laughing and not joining in with the tossers that instigate it.

Pleasant surprises - I’ve brought loads of people to Sunderland from all over the UK, Europe and North America. The UK based people are always pleasantly surprised because their preconceived ideas are generally very negative. Those from further afield generally don’t have such preconceived ideas and therefore just think it’s a really nice place, but the shops are shit close really early.

Self-deprecation - as Mackem, Wearsiders , whatever, we have crossed a line. The self-deprecation That is preprogrammed as part of our ways and our sense of humour has become self-hating. It pains me to say it but you will find no bigger critic of Sunderland than the ordinary man or woman in the street. Just look at the threads on here, whenever the city centre is talked about or something new is announced “it’s shit”. Even the Netflix documentary, before people had seen it “it’ll be shite, not for me, wont watch that shite again”, what f***ing chance do we stand when we destroy ourselves from the inside?
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I agree. The regional bias against Sunderland well and truly exists. It's blatant at times. Ive seen it myself and heard so many examples of it.
It's little wonder people didn't want anything to do with north east devolution deal.
Although when I post things like this I get accused of having a chip on my shoulder and being negative, by people who are probably mag posters.
People can talk down the city, but it's not without explanation.
Years of underinvestment, the city not connected directly to the east coast mainline, the lack of a decent train station, the token metro extension that doesn't go many places around wearside , the government moving civil servant jobs out the city centre, the police moving the Sunderland headquarters out of the city centre, the backtracking of the law courts building, the Vaux saga, the hollowed out city centre for business other than retail , the closure of industries, regional bias etc etc . Sunderland folk have much to be self deprecating about because we all want the city to do well but external factors are so influential in keeping the city back.
 
depends where you go to be fair

Some lovely boozers in Sunderland and some nice areas to take people

unfortunately the town centre is frequented by the bad boys brigade
 
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