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Mackem00 said:
You seem completely unable to accept other people's opinions on the matter. :lol:

Personally, I think it should be goal line and nothing else. The Salah offside was so marginal that it is hardly worth complaint about narl.

30 seconds wait is a ridiculous amount of time as is the ref running to the side of the pitch to look at a little tv screen.
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AC Mack said:
I've no problem with people wanting VAR and I wouldn't deny there are lots of potential positives with it. In fact, if it could be implemented without disrupting the flow of the game or spoiling it for the fans who are at the game then great.

However, I've never seen anyone completely fail to grasp the points of others like @stephen cartwright has on this matter. It's a shame because i like him ;)
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Lack of respect being shown here. Disgusting
 

Mackem00 said:
You seem completely unable to accept other people's opinions on the matter. :lol:

Personally, I think it should be goal line and nothing else. The Salah offside was so marginal that it is hardly worth complaint about narl.

30 seconds wait is a ridiculous amount of time as is the ref running to the side of the pitch to look at a little tv screen.
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Salad was offside. Spurs goal also offside

Tell that to clubs who miss out on millions come the end of the season

As for other opinions, I’ve answered everyone, with what VAR is used for

But what about this or the other they say. Well the answer is simple, var is not used for the incidents they ask about

I’ve been very clear about what var is used for

Also your 30 seconds. Every game has approx 60 mins of the ball in play. That’s 30 mins of nowt happening

30 seconds is nothing
 
Cox Green Fc said:
Anyone still against it.

Salah has just scored a clear offside goal and it stood. Bournemouth can feel hard done by.

I was against it. But now starting to come round to it, simply because I would of loved that goal to be rightly ruled out, mainly because I'm not keen on Liverpool
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Generally in favour especially when that so called Brazilian star.. was going to be awarded a penalty in the World Cup, but was changed, to him getting a yellow for diving.

Will not solve all decisions but does make inroads into the more obvious mistakes.
 
stephen cartwright said:
Salad was offside. Spurs goal also offside

Tell that to clubs who miss out on millions come the end of the season

As for other opinions, I’ve answered everyone, with what VAR is used for

But what about this or the other they say. Well the answer is simple, var is not used for the incidents they ask about

I’ve been very clear about what var is used for

Also your 30 seconds. Every game has approx 60 mins of the ball in play. That’s 30 mins of nowt happening

30 seconds is nothing
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The 30 mins the ball is out of play is a natural part of the game where players are jostling for or getting back into position or preparing to do something. Not just standing around doing nowt. It's a silly comparison.

I'll happily tell Bournemouth that Salah was so slightly offside and that it wasn't worth arguing about if they ever decide to ask me like.
 
Mackem00 said:
The 30 mins the ball is out of play is a natural part of the game where players are jostling for or getting back into position or preparing to do something. Not just standing around doing nowt. It's a silly comparison.

I'll happily tell Bournemouth that Salah was so slightly offside and that it wasn't worth arguing about if they ever decide to ask me like.
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well Bournemouth could go down by a goal. It happened years back to Bolton, when a ball crossed the line, wasn’t given and Everton stayed up instead. Ah it’s part of the game it will even out


It’s not at all. You are concerned about thirty second delays as too long

We already get 30 min delays in games

Proven stats

Previous 94% decisions now, improved to 98%

Goal line technology now 100% correct decision are made.

Is that chaos and not progress?

Said this time and again, no respect given to these facts, just more what about this, that or the other

I’ve said this before, BUT IM NOT REPLYING AGAIN ON THIS.
 
stephen cartwright said:
well Bournemouth could go down by a goal. It happened years back to Bolton, when a ball crossed the line, wasn’t given and Everton stayed up instead. Ah it’s part of the game it will even out


It’s not at all. You are concerned about thirty second delays as too long

We already get 30 min delays in games

Proven stats

Previous 94% decisions no, improved to 98%

Goal line technology now 100% correct decision are made.

Is that chaos and not progress?
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I disagree that 30 seconds delay is acceptable. You are just gonna have to live with that.
 
Mackem00 said:
How can I ignore it? You've don't nowt but mention it for several pages. I don't think it's a worthy trade off. You clearly disagree which is fine. It'll be entertaining for armchair fans mind I'm sure. :rolleyes:
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You have posted about thirty seconds but ignore every other point I’ve made on this

100% correct on goal line decisions. Chaos?

94% correct decisions, improved to 98% correct. Chaos?

But what about this, that and the other.
 
stephen cartwright said:
You have posted about thirty seconds but ignore every other point I’ve made on this

100% correct on goal line decisions. Chaos?

94% correct decisions, improved to 98% correct. Chaos?

But what about this, that and the other.
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I've already said I agree with goal line tech as it doesn't interfere with the flow of the game.
 
Can’t come soon enough. Not really sure why it isn’t being used already. It will take a little time to bed in and people will jump all over the slightest thing but it’s undoubtedly going to make the game fairer. Thought it was superb at the World Cup and should get rid finally of all that shirt pulling at corners
 
stephen cartwright said:
You have posted about thirty seconds but ignore every other point I’ve made on this

100% correct on goal line decisions. Chaos?

94% correct decisions, improved to 98% correct. Chaos?

But what about this, that and the other.
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Personally, for the drawbacks that the system will bring to fans in attendance's enjoyment I don't think a 4% improvement is enough. It's an improvement but if we cant get 100% then at some point VAR is going to favour one team over another in a big game (goal given/not given following review whilst another goal is given following a bad decision, let's say from a corner that shouldnt be given). Plus these percentages don't take into account the increase in incorrect offside decisions VAR creates.

Are you happy with the system that was used during world cup? Or would you change it in anyway when it is brought in next season?

I would use it only for off sides on the assumption that a system could be used like the goal line technology with the ref getting an immediate buzz that it's off side so it shouldn't create any extra delays. If the technology for this isn't available yet then I would wait until it is.

If it is to used for more decisions then I would adopt the 3 reviews system they have in cricket. There are obviously a lot of issues that would need to be ironed out with how this would work but at least we aren't valuing one incorrect decision over enough.

Remove the waste of time of the ref going to watch on his little TV and have the VAR refs be the ones that actually make the decision.

Honess10 said:
Can’t come soon enough. Not really sure why it isn’t being used already. It will take a little time to bed in and people will jump all over the slightest thing but it’s undoubtedly going to make the game fairer. Thought it was superb at the World Cup and should get rid finally of all that shirt pulling at corners
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It's never going to work on corners. I heard someone say on the radio that they had gone back and looked at England's corners during the world cup and we fouled on every one (our queue of players basically pushed everyone out of the way leaving the player at the back a free run to the ball) but as it happened before the ball was in the centre it wasn't part of the review.
 
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What I am getting from this debate is simple, those for it myself included, see the benefits of this as the
Next step in the games evolution, and those against want to stick with the current system, aka Tradition so not as to try and improve but accept what is.
 
CissesUnderpants19 said:
What I am getting from this debate is simple, those for it myself included, see the benefits of this as the
Next step in the games evolution, and those against want to stick with the current system, aka Tradition so not as to try and improve but accept what is.
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Yep, rinse and repeat for the next million VAR threads. See you next time folks.
 
rocky said:
Lack of respect being shown here. Disgusting
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Terrible to just jump in two feet Rocky lad, without knowing all the facts. Stevey can give and take in equal measures.

stephen cartwright said:
Salad was offside. Spurs goal also offside

Tell that to clubs who miss out on millions come the end of the season

As for other opinions, I’ve answered everyone, with what VAR is used for

But what about this or the other they say. Well the answer is simple, var is not used for the incidents they ask about

I’ve been very clear about what var is used for

Also your 30 seconds. Every game has approx 60 mins of the ball in play. That’s 30 mins of nowt happening

30 seconds is nothing
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Which is one of the reasons it's bad, as people continue to mention.
 
CissesUnderpants19 said:
What I am getting from this debate is simple, those for it myself included, see the benefits of this as the
Next step in the games evolution, and those against want to stick with the current system, aka Tradition so not as to try and improve but accept what is.
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I'm happy for improvement when it has no negative effects on the flow of the game or supporters' enjoyment in the stadium.
 
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