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Discopants91 said:
Of course it's coming, of course it's easy to understand....

I still f***ing hate it.
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You won’t if we ever get back to the level to have it

These celebrations. Now you will get the instant release, then on review, you may get yet another release
 
stephen cartwright said:
You won’t if we ever get back to the level to have it

These celebrations. Now you will get the instant release, then on review, you may get yet another release
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Nope, not right for me, I fell off me bar stool and nearly died when that goal went in.

Again, it's purely for the TV fans rather than the people who acutally attend.
 
Discopants91 said:
Nope, not right for me, I fell off me bar stool and nearly died when that goal went in.

Again, it's purely for the TV fans rather than the people who acutally attend.
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It isnt but that’s your view

It will work for safc in the future, I’ve no doubt. It will also deny safc something but it ups the correct decision rate to 98% and I’m all for it

The drama of a drs decision in cricket is universally accepted and adds to the entertainment in the ground
 
stephen cartwright said:
It isnt but that’s your view

It will work for safc in the future, I’ve no doubt. It will also deny safc something but it ups the correct decision rate to 98% and I’m all for it

The drama of a drs decision in cricket is universally accepted and adds to the entertainment in the ground
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Cricket isn't comparable, forget that comparison.

We don't need that stupid added drama, football is by far the most popular sport in the world and for good reason we don't need this artificial bollocks.
 
Discopants91 said:
Cricket isn't comparable, forget that comparison.

We don't need that stupid added drama, football is by far the most popular sport in the world and for good reason we don't need this artificial bollocks.
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The comparison is the involvement of outside officialdom as is var

We had all these whinges when that was introduced. Now it’s an integral part of the game

The same whinges were in rugby league/union, tennis and so on

It’s not artificial either, as the reality of what happens is used
 
stephen cartwright said:
The comparison is the involvement of outside officialdom as is var

We had all these whinges when that was introduced. Now it’s an integral part of the game

The same whinges were in rugby league/union, tennis and so on

It’s not artificial either, as the reality of what happens is used
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Cricket - Pauses every single ball

Tennis - Pauses every rally

Rugby - Every time they get bored of bumming each other in a big pile?

Tech works in all of these sports but football is the best game because they don't need it.
 
Discopants91 said:
Cricket - Pauses every single ball

Tennis - Pauses every rally

Rugby - Every time they get bored of bumming each other in a big pile?

Tech works in all of these sports but football is the best game because they don't need it.
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You better get that message to all the clubs then. They want it, it improves the % of correct decisions and enhances the game.

That’s my whack
 
Perfect example just then in the Chelsea game of why VAR is an unfair system. Clear offside missed that led to a Manchester corner, had they scored from it the giving of the corner wouldnt have been reviewed.

Any system that only reviews certain decisions is going to create issues.
 
CEF said:
What if Salah had missed but had led to Liverpool still scoring, would that be disallowed, and if so how long from the potential offside can you continue before you're allowed to score? What if the opposing team wins the ball back and begins to attack, and ref gets offside call in his ear?

Far too vague. Caused absolute chaos in the World Cup. Had it for a few cup games last year as well, was a farce.
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In rugby they go back quite a few phases. It does work if managed properly
 
Fi Lo Beddow said:
Perfect example just then in the Chelsea game of why VAR is an unfair system. Clear offside missed that led to a Manchester corner, had they scored from it the giving of the corner wouldnt have been reviewed.

Any system that only reviews certain decisions is going to create issues.
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Var is not used for corners

It’s line decisions, penalties and offsides. Also mistaken identity for cards

That’s it, no more
 
Fi Lo Beddow said:
Exactly, that's my point. You can concede a goal from a corner that shouldn't have been given.
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Then as it always been a gripe at the officials

It’s nowt to do with var

That’s the misunderstanding about var, creating incidents when it’s simply not used

Then when it is used, it’s down to the onfield official to either back himself or choose to change his mind

Var does not, or never has, given a decision. It’s down to the field official as it has since the 1880s onwards
 
My club plays in the third div and purely on the basis of cost it’s never going to be introduced at that level so I couldn’t give a toss about var
 
Discopants91 said:
I was just about to use the same example :lol:

Imagine Johnson's winner in the last min against the mags and having to wait for a replay....moment of joy you'll remember forever well and truly killed.

I know we'll never agree but I hate it Carty lad.
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Surely the most important point is to get the correct and fair decision?

Discopants91 said:
Nope, not right for me, I fell off me bar stool and nearly died when that goal went in.

Again, it's purely for the TV fans rather than the people who acutally attend.
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It’s not about either the armchair fans or the people that go.

It’s about just getting the right decision all round, and while there is some issues with VAR.

There is no doubt in my mind you will get more decisions with VAR than without it!
 
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stephen cartwright said:
Not if var. clearly showed it was offside

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It’s coming, it’s a very easy system to understand

Why people fail to understand its simplicity is beyond me.
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If that happened, it would be chaos and people would be going back to all the other incidents during the game that could have potentially gone in our favour. You can't use VAR for some things but not for others.

It's an easy system to understand, but you continually fail to grasp other peoples' viewpoints when they share them. We all know that the ref has the final say, that doesn't mean that VAR can't be a farce.
 
Voice of fair play said:
Surely the most important point is to get the correct and fair decision?



It’s not about either the armchair fans or the people that go.

It’s about just getting the right decision all round, and while there is some issues with VAR.

There is no doubt in my mind you will get more decisions with VAR than without it!
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Pre World Cup, it’s was oh, the games will last hours with decisions being reviewed

Didn’t happen, then a lot of confusion over penalties, despite it being the onfield ref decision and if he does not want var, that’s it, same as it ever was

Video ASSISTANT referee. It does not give decisions, it offers assistance

I blame the clueless pundits and commentators being unable to read up on how it was to be used and then to explain that to the viewers and fans

As you say the percentage of correct decisions went from 94% to 98%

What’s wrong with that?
 
Fi Lo Beddow said:
I'm with you on this, as it was used in the World Cup hated it. It does work brilliantly on offside decisions and if they limited it to that then great. Everything else, there's still too much doubt to use the replays.
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But if there's an offside that gets changed by VAR, what if there was a foul the other way in the build up that doesn't get changed?
 
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