Gammon-Watch: Jamesons , Sunderland - Thu 6th Dec

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WHD said:
That's what May is hoping - that everyone is so bored they will just agree with her deal to get it over with.

The trouble is, her "deal" doesn't end the saga, it only prolongs it as we will be in negotiations with the EU for years to come regarding our future relationship.
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That was the feeling I got, I don't know anyone in favour of this deal, I would expect something like this to be barnier and junkers opening offer. If they had sat in a room and come up with this by themselves I would definitely believe it.
 


the boot said:
That her deal won’t end the saga. Not being a nob here mind or sarcastic I’m more wondering why everyone is arguing.
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Because the deal is just the withdrawal agreement. It contains lines saying we the EU and UK will work together in good faith to secure a future relationship (or words to that effect). The Irish border has also just been left to sort out in the future.

It isn't up for debate that this agreement means further negotiation is necessary, it's a fact. May is being disingenuous saying the deal will draw a line under brexit (or whatever it was she claimed).
 
DisillusionedOldGit said:
Black and Deck Spennymoor 950 jobs to Poland . Electrolux Spennymoor 550 job to Czech Republic. Any big factories been opened locally by E.U countries . Japanese invest in British workers but not the E.U..
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I didn't realise about these like. Canny number of jobs for a place like Spennymoor. Not sure the suggestion that people should just move abroad for work washes with me like.
 
WHD said:
Because the deal is just the withdrawal agreement. It contains lines saying we the EU and UK will work together in good faith to secure a future relationship (or words to that effect). The Irish border has also just been left to sort out in the future.

It isn't up for debate that this agreement means further negotiation is necessary, it's a fact. May is being disingenuous saying the deal will draw a line under brexit (or whatever it was she claimed).
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There is a 600 detailed manuscript on the brexit deal. I have not read one bit as I wouldn’t understand most of the words. Have you? Once again not a dig. It’s just I get the feeling that people just pull extracts that is personal to them from it and rally around those two or three issues. Even the politicians do this.
 
the boot said:
There is a 600 detailed manuscript on the brexit deal. I have not read one bit as I wouldn’t understand most of the words. Have you? Once again not a dig. It’s just I get the feeling that people just pull extracts that is personal to them from it and rally around those two or three issues. Even the politicians do this.
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No I haven't read it in its entirety, but I have read quotes from it. Unless the quotes are false, then it does not draw a line under brexit, it just leaves it to get sorted out in the future.
 
Keawyeds said:
However you voted, you're not getting what you voted for.
That alone should be reason for The People's Vote.
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What would your choices be in a peoples vote second referendum?

The Legendary Tongue said:
What the fuck does gammon mean?
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It means white people occasionally go red when their emotional, which is the same colour as gammon.

Don't worry the people who use the term will assure you it has nothing to do with race because that would make them hypocrites and racists..... It is only to do with skin colour :rolleyes::lol:
 
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Ben Gardner said:
Evidence, reports, charts, graphs... basically, proof.

Proof that Brexit IN ANY FORM will be a costly shambles.

And what's the reaction from leave voters? Dry your eyes, get over it.

i.e. absolutely nothing of substance.
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We had all these reports, charts, graphs etc two years past saying it was going to cost a fortune and it didn't, nothing of substance mate.
Stop crying and get along to one of the tramps pubs and cheer yourself up.
 
WHD said:
No I haven't read it in its entirety, but I have read quotes from it. Unless the quotes are false, then it does not draw a line under brexit, it just leaves it to get sorted out in the future.
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That’s why I have not commented on brexit mate. The whole brexit was started with false quotes and promises.
What kind of country put a women in charge of leaving the eu who was wholeheartedly committed to staying in it.
 
Aituk7 said:
Since when did you believe tories?
Since they started agreeing with you? ;)
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Folk right across the spectrum of UK politics are now realising that the whole thing is an ill thought out, totally unplanned fiasco.

You're right, Sir, it is bizarre that I appear to be agreeing with Tories. There were things that (even) Arlene Foster said at the weekend that made sense!
 
the boot said:
Just said no in another reply mate. Have you read it all. Once again not a dig. It’s hard not to sound sarcastic on this board sometimes.
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It's hard to keep track the way the board works, as you scroll you then reply before going onto another page and seeing you've already answered.

Basically the deal forces us to stay in the customs union in perpetuity until the EU agrees we can leave. In the meantime we get hardly any of the freedoms brexit allows. It's a terrible deal and just adds to the failing of challenges this prime minister sets herself.

She said we need strong and stable government - She couldn't get a majority and is on the verge of suffering a motion of no confidence

She said we didn't need a coalition of chaos - She went into coalition with the DUP and they could be leaving very soon

She said no deal is better than a bad deal - This deal doesn't even hit her own red lines she listed at the start of the negotiations of the minimum she would accept, so it is a bad deal and yet she is still trying to get it through the commons.

However you look at it, she's awful like... and the EU must feel like they got the best of everything.
 
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Aituk7 said:
What would your choices be in a peoples vote second referendum?


It means white people occasionally go red when their emotional, which is the same colour as gammon.

Don't worry the people who use the term will assure you it has nothing to do with race because that would make them hypocrites and racists..... It is only to do with skin colour :rolleyes::lol:
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Cheers, I genuinely didn’t know but I’ve seen white people use it as well so it must be something thick bastards say.
 
Flared Hicks said:
It didn’t stifle it but it guided it down an initial narrative.

Threads in here tend to be organic and can weave and wind their way down many roads. We can guide it down @zwartekat ’s line. I actually think it’s worthy of discussion, and it’s easy enough to ignore the rhetoric and hyperbole if you really want to.
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I genuinely believe a hard Brexit could be good for the future of the country. A change in the old thinking of growth and big business above all else.

However, there is no political will, no political expertise and no demand from the populace, so the only alternative is to change our minds and go back with our tail between our legs.

The whole project was hijacked by the useless and uncommitted and never had a chance of success.
 
Ben Gardner said:
Folk right across the spectrum of UK politics are now realising that the whole thing is an ill thought out, totally unplanned fiasco.

You're right, Sir, it is bizarre that I appear to be agreeing with Tories. There were things that (even) Arlene Foster said at the weekend that made sense!
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Well yeah cos the deal is shite. A one eyed frog that can't ribbit could negotiate something better than this.

It honestly looks like the EU said this is our opening position and she went I can't be arsed to debate.... which wouldn't surprise me as she couldn't be arsed to debate Jeremy Corbyn in the middle of an early general election she called!
 
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