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Racist away fans (again)

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Grumpy Old Man said:
History never repeats itself exactly, but it's a truism that those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat its mistakes.
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For the first time in a long time, 100% agreed with this. moving on from that, going forward it needs correcting before it gets out of hand, question is how ?
 

Grumpy Old Man said:
I don't want to derail this because this is a huge diversion, but, in my view the problem with Weimar was not so much societal decadence as massive political instability. The EU referendum has exposed fault lines in the major parties not seen in this country since the reform of the Corn Laws. This has created circumstances where political extremes can play with unnerving effect (I'm including both Momentum and the European Research Group (sic) here, as well as the more extreme elements).Thankfully, we're missing out on the hyperinflation.
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I’ll respect your wish to keep this short so as to not derail the thread. I agree ofcourse there were big economical factors that caused problems for the Weimar Republic, but the problematic political situation existed for numerous reasons one of the biggest being a backlash against decadence and weakness. This is also happening now.
 
Alcoholic_Author said:
I’ll respect your wish to keep this short so as to not derail the thread. I agree ofcourse there were big economical factors that caused problems for the Weimar Republic, but the problematic political situation existed for numerous reasons one of the biggest being a backlash against decadence and weakness. This is also happening now.
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This is one for 15,000 word academic articles. In short, it's complicated, and will keep historians arguing for decades.
 
Guess who said
"I’ve given you 5 Africans our of how many we had? A dozen at most.

I forgot diouf as well so there’s 6. Can only think of mensah who was no bother.

You give one English example out of hundreds and hundreds:lol:"
But he is not racist, so he says.
 
Looks like we have been reading some @Mrjardine's greatest hits:lol:
September 16th 2018
QUOTE="Mrjardine, post: 28337111, member: 35351
"I’m saying it’s a remark that isn’t worth getting offended over.

I also point out that I don’t recall any black person being offended on behalf of a white one when it comes to racism.

Shoe on other foot and the left jump straight out from inside their cereal cafe to compete against each other in the who can be the most offended stakes./QUOTE

February 2 2018
QUOTE="Mrjardine, post: 27004312, member: 35351
"Good post. The amount of people who feel the need to be all apologetic on behalf of anyone non white is embarrassing in my opinion. People are getting all outraged and embarrassed on account of things that happened before they were even born.
One thing I do notice is that I never see any black persons going into bat on behalf of a white person for any racism directed at them.
Anything directed at a non white though (doesn’t even have to be racist as this incident shows) and they all come galloping out of their cereal cafes flapping their arms with guardian in hand!/QUOTE

Not only bigoted but boring and unoriginal.
 
Hamwise said:
Except no right to free speech exists in the United Kingdom. You DO have (currently) the right to free expression that comes from the EU convention on Human Rights.

That explicitly excludes hate speech - racial hate speech being a clear example. You can go to prison for a serious enough offence.

f***ing Mag idiot.
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Not sure how I’m an idiot here. I was arguing against someone saying that it was ok to say that kind of thing because of “free speech”. I’m in your side. Why “f***ing mag idiot”?

Hamwise said:
... probably.

He's a mag though so it’s alright
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Replace the word mag with black. Is that ok?
 
maginpeace said:
Not sure how I’m an idiot here. I was arguing against someone saying that it was ok to say that kind of thing because of “free speech”. I’m in your side. Why “f***ing mag idiot”?
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Some of us have difficulty with one of you (God, that sounds bad) displaying any kind of logical coherence. It's .... unexpected. I knew you were calling him out.
 
Laeotaekhun said:
Or at SJP?
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I was at SJP. Didn’t hear any racism. But have once in the last and called them
Out on it

Grumpy Old Man said:
Some of us have difficulty with one of you (God, that sounds bad) displaying any kind of logical coherence. It's .... unexpected. I knew you were calling him out.
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There are f***ing racist idiots at all clubs. Each and every one of them should be absolutely outed and shamed and banned.

I’ve seen racism from various away fans and also fellow Newcastle fans. I’ll shout all of them down. I’m not going to defend racism because the **** supports the same team as me. Some in this thread need a long hard look at themselves
 
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