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Time for Lewis and collingwood to leave DCCC and for Neil Killeen to be given the first team coaching role at Durham.

He is Durham ccc through and through, is ingrained in the club, has all the credentials, would help Jon windows to get the academy going in the right direction again and would put the club back on track for an assault on promotion from this awful division. Does anyone disagree with this?

This would be if we can’t get someone like Benkenstein back.
 
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A bit passive aggressive.

I can't agree because I don't know enough about him. I don't object to him, I know he's widely well regarded in his current role and no doubt would be a good contender if there is an opening.

But. I don't agree that the fault lies in Lewis and Colly. I think Colly will be moving on anyway.

The club is moving forward. There has been a lot of change recently and most of that hasn't bedded in yet. Next season will be the acid test on the recruitment done this season.

No one will object to Salisbury and Lees and Raine I think. Nor to the overseas Latham, Rimmington and Tahir ….. we surprised ourselves in the T20. And no one will object to Handscomb for next year either.

Clearly the squad has problems in the batting department but a top three of Handcomb, Lees and Steel looks reasonable. It's with the next 3 that there's a question mark. (Poynter has had a good season)

It's obvious too that prior difficulties have been at least partly due to a tightening of the pursestrings and to an outsider the recent recruitment indicates some money has become available. I'd guess this is either because cash has genuinely become available by players now on contract leaving - or - a the austerity measures mean finances are not liable to run out of control -or- a change in attitude by the new Chairman and ne Chief Exec. (maybe all three)
 
Parkside said:
Am I missing something or should I read Bancroft for Handscomb in above. Can't agree Rimmigton was a good signing-11wkts at 51?
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Was one of the top wicket takers in the T20. Maybe his signing was for that?
 
Parkside said:
Am I missing something or should I read Bancroft for Handscomb in above. Can't agree Rimmigton was a good signing-11wkts at 51?
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Yes, sorry.

Rimmington has played a lot in all three comps. I wouldn't compare him to our best but he's done ok. And he's an English qualified player.

But that just a minor point compared to the overall argument - that changes and players have been brought in although not yet bedded in.

Also the ECB thing hit harder than it was said at the time and recovery will take longer. At the time I said it could be Durham's 'Mr Smith' moment or equivalent of. You'll remember what the impact of a simple anonymous letter to the Football League is 1960 or thereabouts had on sunderland.
 
stephen cartwright said:
Was one of the top wicket takers in the T20. Maybe his signing was for that?
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T20 was his forte that's not too generous a description but the fact is the requirement was for a replacement for Onions i.e. a predominantly red ball cricketer..

Bri said:
Yes, sorry.

Rimmington has played a lot in all three comps. I wouldn't compare him to our best but he's done ok. And he's an English qualified player.

But that just a minor point compared to the overall argument - that changes and players have been brought in although not yet bedded in.

Also the ECB thing hit harder than it was said at the time and recovery will take longer. At the time I said it could be Durham's 'Mr Smith' moment or equivalent of. You'll remember what the impact of a simple anonymous letter to the Football League is 1960 or thereabouts had on sunderland.
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I take your 'Mr Smith moments" but chuckle at the thought of the content of anonymous letters from Durham supporters to FTECB- would make Lady Chatterly look like a M&B romance.
Can't see Rimmington being a CC regular next year anyway but young new signings like Davies, Jones and Harte haven't been given chances to bed in.
 
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Rimmo was always going to be a limited overs specialist. Now we have Salisbury to partner Rushy with the new ball, maybe he can concentrate solely on that with a '3rd seamer' being Mark Wood! I have had a couple of pints mind.
 
Ageing trundler said:
Rimmo was always going to be a limited overs specialist. Now we have Salisbury to partner Rushy with the new ball, maybe he can concentrate solely on that with a '3rd seamer' being Mark Wood! I have had a couple of pints mind.
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Ben Raine and McCarthy 1st and 2nd change surely. Rimmington only in reserve for red ball cricket.
All right you've had a couple of pints. So what's Lewis's excuse?
 
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Parkside said:
Ben Raine and McCarthy 1st and 2nd change surely. Rimmington only in reserve for red ball cricket.
All right you've had a couple of pints. So what's Lewis's excuse?
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Oh aye, forgot about Raine.
 
Parkside said:
Ben Raine and McCarthy 1st and 2nd change surely. Rimmington only in reserve for red ball cricket.
All right you've had a couple of pints. So what's Lewis's excuse?
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The defence for the first team coach (of any County or sport) is that they've done a good job with the material available.

The ECB issues was always going to have a hit on performance for more than one year (despite my hopeful dreams). We lost three central to the cause batsmen that can't be replaced immediately and in Coggers lost who was expected to do good things.

Three bad seasons was likely and that's what we got.

It seems like money is only just now becoming available - and there's been an upsurge in recruitment to go with it.

I prefer to look at the young players for hope. But that's not an immediate fix. Young'uns can't be just thrown in to sink or swim or they'll sink before their time. A special few can be thrown in - Ben Stokes for instance, but he was a special talent. I'd like to think we have a few specialist batsmen waiting for their chance, but I don't know if we have.
 
Still nothing about the future for Colly, although I got the feeling at the last championship match plenty of people thought his time was up. He is bowling less and less and that has possibly been his strongest asset as a Durham player especially his one day bowling.

Carteron said:
Holy fuck, imagine killeens strut If he was properly in charge. Be a disaster
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Best strut since Malcolm Marshall but he is a decent lad.
 
GordonMuchallNo1Fan said:
the league table of the 1 day cup and county championship doesn't lie
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Yea, but that's looking backwards rather than forwards. That's the result of last year's and the previous years events.

If you were to go to the members meeting next week and ask Lewis something like "what have you done so that next year isn't going to be as bad as this year and last" I'm sure he could point to the recruitment that has happened.

And then you asked him .. "why didn't you recruit like that last year for this" - now that would be an interesting answer to hear.

But the fact of that recruitment does mean the club is looking ahead.
 
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Bri said:
Yea, but that's looking backwards rather than forwards. That's the result of last year's and the previous years events.

If you were to go to the members meeting next week and ask Lewis something like "what have you done so that next year isn't going to be as bad as this year and last" I'm sure he could point to the recruitment that has happened.

And then you asked him .. "why didn't you recruit like that last year for this" - now that would be an interesting answer to hear.

But the fact of that recruitment does mean the club is looking ahead.
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I'm looking at real life now, nothing more, nothing less. Remains to be seen if the club progress next season, I'll be worried if we don't as this season has been an absolute embarrassment overall
 
Bri said:
Yea, but that's looking backwards rather than forwards. That's the result of last year's and the previous years events.

If you were to go to the members meeting next week and ask Lewis something like "what have you done so that next year isn't going to be as bad as this year and last" I'm sure he could point to the recruitment that has happened.

And then you asked him .. "why didn't you recruit like that last year for this" - now that would be an interesting answer to hear.

But the fact of that recruitment does mean the club is looking ahead.
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Wasting your time mate. He doesn’t do logic.
 
Buchans Boots said:
Time for Lewis and collingwood to leave DCCC and for Neil Killeen to be given the first team coaching role at Durham.

He is Durham ccc through and through, is ingrained in the club, has all the credentials, would help Jon windows to get the academy going in the right direction again and would put the club back on track for an assault on promotion from this awful division. Does anyone disagree with this?

This would be if we can’t get someone like Benkenstein back.
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They all sound foreign to me

Brexit = Ballance

But not Gary
 
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Club apparently moving forward but cant be arsed with a match preview/team news for tomorrow
 
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