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Ed Smith and his choices

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Just been looking at a couple of stats.

Why isn't Jack Leach being picked? Just looking at 1st class matches with 5 wicket hauls he has more than Rushy on a per match basis. That's a spinner being a bigger wicket taken than one of the best County FM bowler for the past few years.

He also out performs Adil Rashid too and at a far better runs per wicket.
 
Bri said:
Just been looking at a couple of stats.

Why isn't Jack Leach being picked? Just looking at 1st class matches with 5 wicket hauls he has more than Rushy on a per match basis. That's a spinner being a bigger wicket taken than one of the best County FM bowler for the past few years.

He also out performs Adil Rashid too and at a far better runs per wicket.
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Because the ECB are fuckwits.

As are the selectors.

smoker said:
You drunk? He's our top run scorer.

I'd persevere with him as wicket keeper, Bairstow number 5.
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When all was weighed up, would I have selected him? Not a chance.

But, Smith has pulled a rabbit out of his arse and got lucky - its worked.
 
TheRey said:
Because the ECB are fuckwits.

As are the selectors.


When all was weighed up, would I have selected him? Not a chance.

But, Smith has pulled a rabbit out of his arse and got lucky - its worked.
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Why not a chance, before he was picked he was in outstanding form, (yes in another format).

He is a extremely talented cricketer and a big game player, that is clear as day.

Yes it was fair enough his red ball average in the championship was a reason for not picking him, but why not a chance for such a talent!

Smith saw that and made a brave decision and should be appaulded for it full stop, anyone can pick a team based on stats and averages, it’s harder backing your judgement and going for it and he has been proved right.

Bri said:
Just been looking at a couple of stats.

Why isn't Jack Leach being picked? Just looking at 1st class matches with 5 wicket hauls he has more than Rushy on a per match basis. That's a spinner being a bigger wicket taken than one of the best County FM bowler for the past few years.

He also out performs Adil Rashid too and at a far better runs per wicket.
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The concern for Leach is that the wickets at Taunton have been soo heavily in favour of spin, it’s hard to know how big a factor that has been in them stats, woukd be interesting to know them away from Taunton.
 
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Voice of fair play said:
Why not a chance, before he was picked he was in outstanding form, (yes in another format).

He is a extremely talented cricketer and a big game player, that is clear as day.

Yes it was fair enough his red ball average in the championship was a reason for not picking him, but why not a chance for such a talent!

Smith saw that and made a brave decision and should be appaulded for it full stop, anyone can pick a team based on stats and averages, it’s harder backing your judgement and going for it and he has been proved right.



The concern for Leach is that the wickets at Taunton have been soo heavily in favour of spin, it’s hard to know how big a factor that has been in them stats, woukd be interesting to know them away from Taunton.
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Simply put - a lack of red ball cricket, an embarrassment of riches in the lower middle order where he bats, Bairstow with the gloves and Buttlers natural attacking instincts made him unselectable for me. (regarding the lack of red ball, I know I've said I agree with Rashid - I know I said I agreed with his selection, but that's only because of a lack of quality spin in England - something that isn't the case with lower order sloggers.


Agree with your points on Leech.
 
TheRey said:
Simply put - a lack of red ball cricket, an embarrassment of riches in the lower middle order where he bats, Bairstow with the gloves and Buttlers natural attacking instincts made him unselectable for me. (regarding the lack of red ball, I know I've said I agree with Rashid - I know I said I agreed with his selection, but that's only because of a lack of quality spin in England - something that isn't the case with lower order sloggers.


Agree with your points on Leech.
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Buttler imo is one of the most talented crickerters in England and also seems to have the menality and composure to perform under pressure and in big game situations.

That is always why I would find a place for that type in the side, he should keep instead of Bairstow imo
 
Leach goes to SL/WI then as Moeen's spin twin with Rashid as back up if it needs the 3 of them all playing. Then we might see Woakes and Curran both sitting it out. Unless they are played as batsmen!
 
Voice of fair play said:
Buttler imo is one of the most talented crickerters in England and also seems to have the menality and composure to perform under pressure and in big game situations.

That is always why I would find a place for that type in the side, he should keep instead of Bairstow imo
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Yeah, that's fair enough mate - I can definitely see the reasons folk wanted him selected, even if I don't share the opinion.
 
Voice of fair play said:
The concern for Leach is that the wickets at Taunton have been soo heavily in favour of spin, it’s hard to know how big a factor that has been in them stats, woukd be interesting to know them away from Taunton.
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Ya. The same has been (unjustly) said of Rushy too of course. But …… pitches abroad are big turners too .e.g. Sri Lanka and Bangla, if this stats are down to the Taunton Beach then the minimum we know is that he's a big wicket taker on turning pitches …. good to know for playing on turning pitches.

The other thing is that he's a left armer bowler - a good variation to have in the squad even if Modern is your first choice.
 
Bri said:
Ya. The same has been (unjustly) said of Rushy too of course. But …… pitches abroad are big turners too .e.g. Sri Lanka and Bangla, if this stats are down to the Taunton Beach then the minimum we know is that he's a big wicket taker on turning pitches …. good to know for playing on turning pitches.

The other thing is that he's a left armer bowler - a good variation to have in the squad even if Modern is your first choice.
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Yeah can definitely see your point just have reservations whether he is good enough to make the step up, guess time will tell and will never know if he is not given a chance.
 
The biggest disgrace in english cricket IMO is Rashid getting picked over Leach, who is a miles better bowler

Rashid is not good enough at this level and I have absolutely no idea why he is playing.
 
The Rat said:
The biggest disgrace in english cricket IMO is Rashid getting picked over Leach, who is a miles better bowler

Rashid is not good enough at this level and I have absolutely no idea why he is playing.
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Because Leech can only take wickets on doctored pitches.

Furthermore, he didn't really look a major threat in his limited time in international cricket - Rashid can produce moments of brilliance.
 
TheRey said:
Because Leech can only take wickets on doctored pitches.

Furthermore, he didn't really look a major threat in his limited time in international cricket - Rashid can produce moments of brilliance.
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Erm he’s Took a shit load on grounds all around the country

Rashid is shocking at this level
 
WCC said:
I like Leach but he has only taken 5 wickets away from Taunton this season.
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Yeah that does not surprise me.

Leach taking a boat load in current game but hard to judge.

My personal opinion is he would be no where near as effective at higher level.

However that is just a gut feeling more than anything else
 
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