England v India 4th Test

[toosb]

Rashid will be dropped for 5th test I reckon. Bring in an extra batsman.

Root doesn't trust Rashid, that's clear.

Correction: without batting well. The bowlers have, once again, shown their class.

Yes true

 

[Comeback_Kenwyne]

Why is it though? He has faced the most number of balls this summer and is our top scorer

Take away any pre-conceived conceptions you have, he has batted the most responsibility, why can't he bat 5? Because he can also keep wicket?

Bairstow averages 40+ at 7, Buttler has been averaging 50 odd batting 6

Five is different to six... I just think it'll end up like Bairstow. He's a six or a seven. They all are tbh, that's the problem.

 

[The Rat]

Cook, Jennings, Ali, Root, Bairstow, Stokes, Buttler (w), Woakes, Curran, Broad, Anderson

Play Stokes as a batsman only if his knee isn't up to it.
Maybe bring Pope back and rest Jimmy or Broad if Stokes is fit enough to bowl?

We may as well give Ali ago at 3 like, nothing to lose, he has batted there is whole county career

My team if fit is

Cook, Jennings, Ali, Root, Buttler, Stokes, Bairstow (w), Curran, Broad, Anderson, Leach

Five is different to six... I just think it'll end up like Bairstow. He's a six or a seven. They all are tbh, that's the problem.

I still think its a pre-conceived idea, he has faced the most balls in the team, and isn't batting like a 6 or 7, he is batting in the style of a top order player

If he goes back to 7 he will just start slogging again IMO

 

[TopCat]

Root doesn't trust Rashid, that's clear.

To be fair, he's offered very little threat and almost no control. Be a shame if he's kept in the team just to placate Modern in his desire to be "second spinner"

 

[Comeback_Kenwyne]

We may as well give Ali ago at 3 like, nothing to lose, he has batted there is whole county career

My team if fit is

Cook, Jennings, Ali, Root, Buttler, Stokes, Bairstow (w), Curran, Broad, Anderson, Leach

Not sure Stokes will play, he's not 100%. I'd bring Burns in too. And switch Buttler, Bairstow but let's not hog the thread with that!

 

[Bri]

This was in part my point to you about Buttler/Bairstow though. Buttler at five is a square peg, round hole.

Don't recall. But ….. in my thinking moving Buttler around in the middle order is a different kettle of fish to moving a middle order batsmen into the top order so I'd find that acceptable.

I don't mind an opener at 3 but I wouldn't like one at 4, 5, 6, 7

I didn't like Ali at 8 thinking that was too low for a middle order, but, he's been tremendous in that position.

 

[Comeback_Kenwyne]

To be fair, he's offered very little threat and almost no control. Be a shame if he's kept in the team just to placate Modern in his desire to be "second spinner"

Even then, like the Rat, I'd take a look at someone else - Leach.

 

[chopsfc007]

He is very consistent actually, look at his averages. Consistently good in England, consistently shite abroad. Like Woakes.

Genuine question what are they

 

[smoker]

Be great if Ali could get a TWM.

He's too loose for a number 3 though, and his weakness to short deliveries is a problem. Rather he focused on his bowling.

 

[The Rat]

The selection of Rashid is bizarre, he isn't a test quality bowler

 

[Comeback_Kenwyne]

Genuine question what are they

Averages less than 30 in England or thereabouts. Averages 100 away!

(With the ball, obviously!)

 

[chopsfc007]

Averages less than 30 in England or thereabouts. Averages 100 away!

(With the ball, obviously!)

Batting what are they

 

[Comeback_Kenwyne]

Just letting it drift here. Should have brought Stuart Broad on. Bowl straight and short - Bumrah hates it.

 

[Silly Point]

Not sure I'd be bowling Curran to no.11. Get Rash on to clean up the tail

 

[Comeback_Kenwyne]

Batting what are they

I think he's about even there, round about his general average which is about 35-38ish.

I think the way he's been messed around though, having batted everywhere 1-9 has undermined his batting.

 

[The Rat]

Be great if Ali could get a TWM.

He's too loose for a number 3 though, and his weakness to short deliveries is a problem. Rather he focused on his bowling.

Probably is, just think for one game, why not, see how he goes.

 

[chopsfc007]

I think he's about even there, round about his general average which is about 35-38ish.

I think the way he's been messed around though, having batted everywhere 1-9 has undermined his batting.

He's a bit flakey I wouldn't have him in the team abroad

 

[The Rat]

Test Bowling Average in England: Moeen Ali - 31.49 Graeme Swann - 28.94

 

[Comeback_Kenwyne]

Test Bowling Average in England: Moeen Ali - 31.49 Graeme Swann - 28.94

That's without this match mind!

We've switched off here. Lost intensity.

 

[smoker]

Haway get this time wasting buffoon out