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Haseeb Hameed

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chunkyshanhawk53

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What the hell has happened here then? Averages 8 this season or something equally poor

Was reading an article the other day stating that he was playing at too many outside off and has now over compensated and is being bowled or trapped in front leaving the ball. The cricketing equivalent of the yips?

@Steak Pie any insight?
 

I think I mentioned this when he was called up, he lacks power and is quite an insular character. So when he's out of nick he can go hours without getting the ball off the square, and he can't really muscle one over the infield to break the pressure.

All part of learning the trade. You break through and have some success, the bowlers work out how to cut off your strengths, so you have to step up your game. That's where he's at at the minute.
 
Apparently England keep in conversation with him. Does this help? Doesn't look like it.

He'll come back, there's talent there - but he just needs to work things through, in the second team if needs be. He's still young and being an opener in England is a thankless task when you're out of touch.
 
Sounds like a modern day Mark Lathwell. Bags of talent maybe without the mental toughness or drive to back it up. Hope not, he looks a good player
 
Voice of fair play said:
He was like watching paint dry even when he was supposedly good
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Tbf mate we were under the kosh in India when he last played for England. He showed some canny grit and skill imo.

From cricinfo

Hameed's Test debut was an impressive affair. He made 31 and 82 in a methodical manner that invited hopes that, at the tenth time of asking, he could become the opening partner for Alastair Cook that England had sought since the retirement of Andrew Strauss. His maiden Test 50 brought tears in the stand from his father Ismail, whose obsessive coaching since childhood had helped to hone a player of considerable worth.

Hameed was justifiably regarded as one of the outstanding young batsmen in the country after setting records in his first full season of Championship cricket in 2016. He became the youngest batsman to score 1000 runs for Lancashire - eclipsing Atherton - the fifth-youngest to score 1000 in a season for the county and the first to score a hundred in each innings of the Roses match. "Hameed is one of the best young players I've seen in a long time," was the verdict of the opposing captain, Yorkshire's Andrew Gale.

Having developed a reputation for prolific scoring with England U-19s, Hameed blossomed late in the 2015 season when he made an outstanding 91 in only his third Championship match, batting for all but three overs of the final day against Surrey at Old Trafford, leading Ashley Giles, Lancashire's director of cricket, to compare him to Jonathan Trott

Two 50's in six innings with average of 44. 23 boundaries and 2 sixers.
 
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Charlie Chimp said:
Tbf mate we were under the kosh in India when he last played for England. He showed some canny grit and skill imo.

From cricinfo

Hameed's Test debut was an impressive affair. He made 31 and 82 in a methodical manner that invited hopes that, at the tenth time of asking, he could become the opening partner for Alastair Cook that England had sought since the retirement of Andrew Strauss. His maiden Test 50 brought tears in the stand from his father Ismail, whose obsessive coaching since childhood had helped to hone a player of considerable worth.

Hameed was justifiably regarded as one of the outstanding young batsmen in the country after setting records in his first full season of Championship cricket in 2016. He became the youngest batsman to score 1000 runs for Lancashire - eclipsing Atherton - the fifth-youngest to score 1000 in a season for the county and the first to score a hundred in each innings of the Roses match. "Hameed is one of the best young players I've seen in a long time," was the verdict of the opposing captain, Yorkshire's Andrew Gale.

Having developed a reputation for prolific scoring with England U-19s, Hameed blossomed late in the 2015 season when he made an outstanding 91 in only his third Championship match, batting for all but three overs of the final day against Surrey at Old Trafford, leading Ashley Giles, Lancashire's director of cricket, to compare him to Jonathan Trott

Two 50's in six innings with average of 44. 23 boundaries and 2 sixers.
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He is unable to adapt his game. has one way of playing.
 
Steak Pie said:
Last time I watched him at OT there wasn't even a single person in the crowd a branded hairy headband. And he never even tried one ramp shot, or switch hit. Pathetic.
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There is no need for the scarism trying to make a serious point.

Its not about T20 is about been able to play the game situation, don’t want batsman to play them shots especially in county championship but good batsman should be able to adapt.

A sign of a good batsman in all formats is to adapt your game to the situation, a bad wicket dig in, need a early declaration score quickly.

From what I have seen of him and I bow to your greater knowledge of him if I am wrong but he seems able to play just one way.

The batsman I admire is the ones who adapt their game to the situation required, don’t think he can do that.
 
Voice of fair play said:
Its not about T20 is about been able to play the game situation, don’t want batsman to play them shots especially in county championship but good batsman should be able to adapt.

A sign of a good batsman in all formats is to adapt your game to the situation, a bad wicket dig in, need a early declaration score quickly.

From what I have seen of him and I bow to your greater knowledge of him if I am wrong but he seems able to play just one way.

The batsman I admire is the ones who adapt their game to the situation required, don’t think he can do that.
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Does Alastair Cook do that?
 
chunkylover53 said:
Does Alastair Cook do that?
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He doesn’t that is why as much as he is one of England’s best test batsman ever.

I will never rate him as high as Root,Kholi Kallis,Lara,Tendulkar Ponting etc.



The ones I have mentioned can do that.

I consider it a great skill to be able to dig in and play a long innings in a test match then a couple of days later play a quick T20 innings to win a game.

Just my personal opinion but that is a sign of great cricketer adapting to the situation or format!

Someone like Sehwag for example I would always rate higher than Dravid even though I imagine Dravids average is probably better
 
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Voice of fair play said:
He doesn’t that is why as much as he is one of England’s best test batsman ever.

I will never rate him as high as Root,Kholi Kallis,Lara,Tendulkar Ponting etc.



The ones I have mentioned can do that.

I consider it a great skill to be able to dig in and play a long innings in a test match then a couple of days later play a quick T20 innings to win a game.

Just my personal opinion but that is a sign of great cricketer adapting to the situation or format!

Someone like Sehwag for example I would always rate higher than Dravid even though I imagine Dravids average is probably better
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Sehwag certainly didn’t vary his game
 
Voice of fair play said:
There is no need for the scarism trying to make a serious point.

Its not about T20 is about been able to play the game situation, don’t want batsman to play them shots especially in county championship but good batsman should be able to adapt.

A sign of a good batsman in all formats is to adapt your game to the situation, a bad wicket dig in, need a early declaration score quickly.

From what I have seen of him and I bow to your greater knowledge of him if I am wrong but he seems able to play just one way.

The batsman I admire is the ones who adapt their game to the situation required, don’t think he can do that.
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There is like.

His (2nd in the same game) hundred v Yakshite a couple of years ago was a thing of beauty. And that's even if I accept that watching classic batsmen like him is dull, which I don't.

He hasn't kicked on from a promising start, but he's only 21. Plenty of time to develop.
 
chunkylover53 said:
Sehwag certainly didn’t vary his game
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You know the general point I am making though?

Steak Pie said:
There is like.

His (2nd in the same game) hundred v Yakshite a couple of years ago was a thing of beauty. And that's even if I accept that watching classic batsmen like him is dull, which I don't.

He hasn't kicked on from a promising start, but he's only 21. Plenty of time to develop.
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As we know from previous discussions, I think we differ in which type of cricket we prefer to watch even in test cricket.

I simply prefer attacking players such as Gilchrist,Warner,Warne I find them much more entertaining to watch.

Just my personal preference but find that lad terrible to watch,just like I found the likes of Tavare to watch when I was a kid.

Maybe watching the likes of Tavare as s kid scarred me forever :D:D
 
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Voice of fair play said:
You know the general point I am making though?



As we know from previous discussions, I think we differ in which type of cricket we prefer to watch even in test cricket.

I simply prefer attacking players such as Gilchrist,Warner,Warne I find them much more entertaining to watch.

Just my personal preference but find that lad terrible to watch,just like I found the likes of Tavare to watch when I was a kid.

Maybe watching the likes of Tavare as s kid scarred me forever :D:D
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Of course I do. But it doesn’t mean a one dimensional player can’t be successful

Voice of fair play said:
You know the general point I am making though?



As we know from previous discussions, I think we differ in which type of cricket we prefer to watch even in test cricket.

I simply prefer attacking players such as Gilchrist,Warner,Warne I find them much more entertaining to watch.

Just my personal preference but find that lad terrible to watch,just like I found the likes of Tavare to watch when I was a kid.

Maybe watching the likes of Tavare as s kid scarred me forever :D:D
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Of course I do. But it doesn’t mean a one dimensional player can’t be successful
 
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chunkylover53 said:
Of course I do. But it doesn’t mean a one dimensional player can’t be successful


Of course I do. But it doesn’t mean a one dimensional player can’t be successful
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Agree fully, your Cook mention proves that without a shadow of a doubt.

However just making the point that players who can adapt their game to
every format are the ones I prefer to watch and consider them to be more skilful cricketers in general.
 
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