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Ageing trundler said:
Looking ahead, Jimmy loves it, would play every day if he could so no problem with attitude or motivation. I would suggest not taking him to the subcontinent to prolong his international career for at least another 2 years.
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Our only sub continent tour this winter is two (I think) tests in Sri Lanka. Surely we need our best bowler for this!
 

Gives us old fellas hope that its still possible to hoy it down in our dotage. My away swinger is more Pamela Anderson though.
 
rentaghost said:
fair enough - the main difference was McGrath did it from test one. The first quarter of Jimmy's test career was stop start and he averaged 35 before a tour of the WI many years ago. From that time onwards his average has been McGrath like.



I wouldn't argue with that but he is in that bracket.
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Yeah he’s certainly up there.

Akram considering he was playing in sub continent for majority of tests to average 23 is outstanding.

Surprisingly he only averaged 28 in England.

He probably came more into his own when it was reversing mind so possibly the abrasive surfaces in Asia suited him.

Got no better than Malcolm Marshall imo though. The greatest swing bowler of all time.

McGrath the greatest line bowler. Imagine them two sharing new ball :eek:
 
Mrjardine said:
Yeah he’s certainly up there.

Akram considering he was playing in sub continent for majority of tests to average 23 is outstanding.

Surprisingly he only averaged 28 in England.

He probably came more into his own when it was reversing mind so possibly the abrasive surfaces in Asia suited him.

Got no better than Malcolm Marshall imo though. The greatest swing bowler of all time.

McGrath the greatest line bowler. Imagine them two sharing new ball :eek:
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I think hes the greatest pace bowler of all time. More to do with his adaptability rather than his ability to swing the ball (which he was a fine exponent of). In certain conditions he could bowl 90+, short aggressive stuff if that's what conditions allow, short of a length seam bowling or pitched up swing bowling. An absolute master of his craft.

As mentioned re Jimmys average - the only reason it doesn't compare to the likes of McGrath, Steyn and Marshall is down to his early career where he wasn't really good enough and was getting poor advice. These guys were top drawer test cricketers from test 1 and Jimmy from test 25 or so.
 
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rentaghost said:
I think hes the greatest pace bowler of all time. More to do with his adaptability rather than his ability to swing the ball (which he was a fine exponent of). In certain conditions he could bowl 90+, short aggressive stuff if that's what conditions allow, short of a length seam bowling or pitched up swing bowling. An absolute master of his craft.

As mentioned re Jimmys average - the only reason it doesn't compare to the likes of McGrath, Steyn and Marshall is down to his early career where he wasn't really good enough and was getting poor advice. These guys were top drawer test cricketers from test 1 and Jimmy from test 25 or so.
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Marshall could do it all but some of his spells in England when ball was moving in air were astonishing.
Crazy when you think about how they tried to fuck about with Anderson’s action isn’t it!
 
Mrjardine said:
Marshall could do it all but some of his spells in England when ball was moving in air were astonishing.
Crazy when you think about how they tried to fuck about with Anderson’s action isn’t it!
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There was nothing Malcolm Marshall couldn't do with the ball. The best in my book.
 
I loved Hadlee as a bowler as well. Rapid when he was younger but had it on a string in his later years swinging it both ways.
 
SAFC 2012 said:
Brilliant in home conditions.... nout special when it doesnt swing mind
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First and foremost he's one of the greatest swing bowlers to every walk on a cricket pitch. He's also a very clever bowler when conditions aren't in his favour. Usually bowling full to a tight field and forcing mistakes. His record in places like the UAE, India, West Indies where the ball doesn't swing has been excellent after his poor start in test cricket. He has had his moments in Australia also.
 
rentaghost said:
First and foremost he's one of the greatest swing bowlers to every walk on a cricket pitch. He's also a very clever bowler when conditions aren't in his favour. Usually bowling full to a tight field and forcing mistakes. His record in places like the UAE, India, West Indies where the ball doesn't swing has been excellent after his poor start in test cricket. He has had his moments in Australia also.
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Wont disagree. Most of his wickets are taken here mind. His record away from home isnt that impressive

Averages 33
 
SAFC 2012 said:
Wont disagree. Most of his wickets are taken here mind. His record away from home isnt that impressive

Averages 33
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I think the point has already been made that his first 4 years in test cricket he simply wasn't good enough averaged close to 40 before a tour to the WI. Since that point onwards has averaged about 22 over here and 30 overseas which is pretty good. Clearly though he is a bowler that will murder teams when conditions are in his favour and has to find other plans when it isn't.
 
I think he's the best swing bowler of all time. Marshall and Akram have been mentioned, but I think Jimmy is better as an out and out swing bowler (though would likewise argue those two were better 'all-court' bowlers).

Think of it like this. The cloud is grey, the atmosphere muggy, the pitch is Trent Bridge, the ball is a duke. You have to send one bowler from cricket history to bowl for your life... It's Jimmy. Every time.

The Sheepfolds End said:
I’m not sure he’ll last as long. Hopefully he does mind.
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Not sure he deserves to be in the side if Stokes gets off. Either way, Jimmy will last longer.
 
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