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Luke O'Nien

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AC Mack said:
Fair enough. I must be selectively reading then, as I'm seeing lots of positivity.



I know mate. I just don't see how anyone could call someone a bedwetter in our situation.
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So am I but I still see a lot of negativity just for the sake of it. Wouldn’t be so bad if they offered an alternative but they seldom do.
 
D.A.R.Y.L said:
Fans on here have different opinions on the current situation at the club and they should be entitled to it, whether happy or not happy. It seems 80% are happy on here and 20% are not happy and it’s the latter that get pounced on when they don’t agree with the majority. I personally am not happy about being in League one or our demise in recent years, sceptical about the new regime, happy with the appointment of Ross and some of the player recruitment.
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I wouldn’t say it was 80/20 mind.
Do you think anyone is happy being in League 1?
 
janey said:
I wouldn’t say it was 80/20 mind.
Do you think anyone is happy being in League 1?
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With the new regime, I would 80% are. It is unfair on here though if some fans are sceptical about the owners and signings, not being allowed to express their opinion without being pounced on.
 
When your house is built on rotten foundations, you have to tear it down and start from the bottom. That is expensive and it means you can't always have the finest fixtures and fittings straight away as there is just so much to fix (you might even have to pay more money initially to get rid of the harmful 'asbestos') and you certainly won't enjoy living in it as much as you did until its completely finished - and it may never quite feel completely finished because needs change and things break. The pride through this comes from the vision and the rebuilding, the painstaking time taken, and the hunting for cheap gems, hidden features and restoration of something that was once great, while adding a modern and more efficient infrastructure, learning from what has happened in the past.

Keeping the tradition and the beauty, but taking time to improve and evolve - knowing that it doesn't look pretty while you're doing it - and that some of the ugly props you've bought to keep the roof up won't be there when the walls are finished.

That's highly likely a shit metaphor, but i haven't stopped drinking red wine since I was last on here many moons ago. Apologies. (I've had to re-register too)

But if you enjoy supporting the club, then I think this is the time to really enjoy it, because the last few years haven't been. Ask yourself why you support the club, and then see whether we are closer to that vision today than we were under Short any time after the first year or so... I am, because I love the 'pull yourself up by your bootstraps, prove em wrong, hard graft' mentality that our club represents, rather than a terrible attempt at buying success that we've seen. You can't get away from the money involved in football, and it does need a solid level of finance, but we look like we are trying to build a club of players with good honest character, open transparent leadership and with financial foundations that can be built on. The Asbestos is being removed gradually... I do worry that might take longer than anyone involved would like.
 
Merrytwee2.0 said:
When your house is built on rotten foundations, you have to tear it down and start from the bottom. That is expensive and it means you can't always have the finest fixtures and fittings straight away as there is just so much to fix (you might even have to pay more money initially to get rid of the harmful 'asbestos') and you certainly won't enjoy living in it as much as you did until its completely finished - and it may never quite feel completely finished because needs change and things break. The pride through this comes from the vision and the rebuilding, the painstaking time taken, and the hunting for cheap gems, hidden features and restoration of something that was once great, while adding a modern and more efficient infrastructure, learning from what has happened in the past.

Keeping the tradition and the beauty, but taking time to improve and evolve - knowing that it doesn't look pretty while you're doing it - and that some of the ugly props you've bought to keep the roof up won't be there when the walls are finished.

That's highly likely a shit metaphor, but i haven't stopped drinking red wine since I was last on here many moons ago. Apologies. (I've had to re-register too)

But if you enjoy supporting the club, then I think this is the time to really enjoy it, because the last few years haven't been. Ask yourself why you support the club, and then see whether we are closer to that vision today than we were under Short any time after the first year or so... I am, because I love the 'pull yourself up by your bootstraps, prove em wrong, hard graft' mentality that our club represents, rather than a terrible attempt at buying success that we've seen. You can't get away from the money involved in football, and it does need a solid level of finance, but we look like we are trying to build a club of players with good honest character, open transparent leadership and with financial foundations that can be built on. The Asbestos is being removed gradually... I do worry that might take longer than anyone involved would like.
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Where did you paste that from?
 
janey said:
I never have and never will use that phrase. I really don’t think anyone would have chosen our situation, but without wanting to sound cliched we are where we are and can only hope we are on the right track.
I’ve no idea about most of our signings but they are mostly young and hopefully want to be here. On that basis I’m quite excited to see how things pan out
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Well said. Me too!
 
Wycombe seem to love the lad which is a great start. Show the same application and drive here and he'll have the fans on board straight away.
 
D.A.R.Y.L said:
With the new regime, I would 80% are. It is unfair on here though if some fans are sceptical about the owners and signings, not being allowed to express their opinion without being pounced on.
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I’ve said for years that this board isn’t a genuine representation of SAFC fans.

The place is riddled with mags, wind-up merchants, internet trolls and (worst of all) mags pretending to be SAFC fans. The anonymous nature of a message board like this brings out the worst in people.

Anyone with an overly negative view of the club / squad, stands out as a potential mag, as that’s their MO on here, sowing negativity.
 
Steesafc said:
Wycombe seem to love the lad which is a great start. Show the same application and drive here and he'll have the fans on board straight away.
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Spot on !

We need players that want to be here, not those on ridiculous money and spit there dummy out when things are going wrong....

Can't wait for season to start :cool:
 
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