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The Mags and money...

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RECESSION!



He could put the club up for sale for the rumoured £280m he has put in with a complete clean break and he'd have any number of suitors imo.


Which is why i dont get it, the bloke is in the main hated and has been for years, he just doesnt see the opportunity in front of him at times , the top 6 have gone, forget that unless some ultra state buys us, but he could steady the ship with a quality striker, i for one think so far we have done reasonable BUSINESS so far but there you go sometimes its not enough.
 
He could put the club up for sale for the rumoured £280m he has put in with a complete clean break and he'd have any number of suitors imo.
Anyone buying that club For nigh on £300m is gonna run it pretty much the same way as Ashley. That’s big big money for a club who’s ceiling is 7th.

They should poach someone from Man City's commercial department!
Awab mans
 
Anyone buying that club For nigh on £300m is gonna run it pretty much the same way as Ashley. That’s big big money for a club who’s ceiling is 7th.


Awab mans

That's not true at all. Develop the training facilities and the academy and with a long term strategy of gradual progression there absolutely no reason why us (or any other decent-sized club) can break through that ceiling.
 
That's not true at all. Develop the training facilities and the academy and with a long term strategy of gradual progression there absolutely no reason why us (or any other decent-sized club) can break through that ceiling.


Not now Sima, maybe the odd freaky season but never for us under Ashley its gone mental now and i doubt theres many out there to sustain a challenge.sustain is the key.
 
Not now Sima, maybe the odd freaky season but never for us under Ashley its gone mental now and i doubt theres many out there to sustain a challenge.sustain is the key.

Yeah, the proviso is that new investors come in. We (amongst many others) know that Ashley isn't interested in a long-term plan, just stagnation that see us sit at the top table every year.

One of Benitez's main demands is to improve the training and academy facilities. It was mooted long before Benitez arrived but still hasn't happened.

Our players take ice baths in wheelie bins ffs :lol:
 
That's not true at all. Develop the training facilities and the academy and with a long term strategy of gradual progression there absolutely no reason why us (or any other decent-sized club) can break through that ceiling.
Not in a sustainable way imo. Leicester stole it away for a year and the big 6 doubled down with huge money and sewed it up for the foreseeable future. Southampton are the closest example for what you’re proposing and then one bad manager combined with one bad recruitment summer nearly saw them relegated.
 
Anyone buying that club For nigh on £300m is gonna run it pretty much the same way as Ashley. That’s big big money for a club who’s ceiling is 7th.


Awab mans

Is it? 49.9% of Everton sold for £200m. G&S turned down a £650m offer from Redbull to buy West Ham.
 
Not in a sustainable way imo. Leicester stole it away for a year and the big 6 doubled down with huge money and sewed it up for the foreseeable future. Southampton are the closest example for what you’re proposing and then one bad manager combined with one bad recruitment summer nearly saw them relegated.

With all due respect to those sides I'd argue our natural ceiling is way higher than both of them with the right plan in place.
 
He's running it as a business.
He's cleared most of the debt and the mess left by the Hall's and Shepherds and is only spending what is within their means.
He's also keeping the debt down as much as possible for when he eventually sells it, which he will.
Of course this doesn't go down too well at any football club especially one that see's itself as the biggest club in the world who think they should be signing players like Neymar etc.
 
He's running it as a business.
He's cleared most of the debt and the mess left by the Hall's and Shepherds and is only spending what is within their means.
He's also keeping the debt down as much as possible for when he eventually sells it, which he will.
Of course this doesn't go down too well at any football club especially one that see's itself as the biggest club in the world who think they should be signing players like Neymar etc.

The only way he sells us if either

a) He gets an absolutely ludicrous offer which he can't refuse

or

b) His retail investments start to go down the shitter massively forcing him with a requirement to get his hands on some quick money.

or death.

He's going nowhere as he's not interested in selling the club at market value. The commercial benefit is too great for him.

Mags sign a Korean and a Japanese.

Hmmm.....

Yep.

Sell striker and midfielder based for £25-30m

Buy midfielder and striker from countries with partisan loyalty which will commercially benefit for £9.5m in total.

Profit.
 
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With the exception of Glenn Murray and historically Defoe for a few seasons at your place they'd all cost an absolute fortune. You need to spend at least £25m in attempting to get a striker that can regularly get you that amount of goals.

EDIT - Due to his age, possibly add Vardy to the list although even though he is getting on you're still looking at paying over £40m for him.
Ok then you have a few strikers who can get between 6 and 10 already then. Whats the beef if the club cant afford a top one?
 
Aye but he’s made that back with free advertising on the stadium.

Amazing man isn't it!?
Why is this notion routinely suggested?
The big stadium advertising money comes from actually naming the stadium itself, and that is not possible it seems, if the past is a guide. The perimiter advertising at pitch side carries other than SD promotions. The Shirts are not SD.
He has Sports Direct slapped all over the place on the stadium, and while they may be a startlingly grotesque sight, they would not be making much money if it were another name.
 
I'm sure there are countless threads on the Mags, Ashley and all that, so apologies, but can anyone clear a few things up for me?

Are Newcastle, as a club, actually in profit, or are they in debt?

If the club is making money, and he's not spending it, then I get moaning about that. But if they're in debt, or running at a loss, then can they seriously demand Ashley spend money?

And how much have they actually spent since Rafa was there? I know (unlike us) they've sold players at huge profit, which is usually when they start talking about net spend and all that, but even then they still need an owner to allow them to spend and not just keep those profits.

I find their whole demanding money a bit odd - getting MPs standing up demanding he invest or go or whatever - but if they're making vast sums then maybe that's why?

Mags are at least 200m in debt, with an out of control wage bill, Fookin basket case of a klerb, I'm not sure how klerbs are allowed to be managed in this state....Fookin arseholes
 
Had a quick look on wikipedia for Muto. Somebody's been on and edited his apps and goals :lol: . Making him look ridiculously prolific.

In fact, he's managed about a goal in three, which isn't even that bad of a return. Unsure why they've done it.
 
Benitez has blown a fortune on players that he now can't shift because they're either poor, on huge wages or both.

They money the mags are generating are the players bought by previous managers Mbemba etc. Mitrovic was a McLaren signing I think, he'll be the one that gives Rafa more money to piss away on Spanish shite.
 
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