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I don’t really know what more Buttler has to do in some people’s eyes, he could take all 10 catches and stumpings in a World Cup final, hit a ton and score the winning runs and some would moan about the amount of byes he conceded.

He’s a superb cricketer and should have been in the Test side a long time ago and definitely for the Ashes.

We’re so fortunate to be blessed with two destructive world class batsmen/keepers at the same time, every other side in the world would love to have just one of them.
 
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Salem Street South said:
I don’t really know what more Buttler has to do in some people’s eyes, he could take all 10 catches and stumpings in a World Cup final, hit a ton and score the winning runs and some would moan about the amount of byes he conceded.

He’s a superb cricketer and should have been in the Test side a long time ago and definitely for the Ashes.

We’re so fortunate to be blessed with two destructive world class batsmen/keepers at the same time, every other side in the world would love to have just one of them.
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Let me be very clear in my views then

- he’s an incredible one day player. I don’t think I’ve ever criticised him as a white ball player. His shot at the oval was shit, and I said so. I was also 8 pints in
- I would have no issue with him playing at 7 as a keeper batsman in all formats
- I didn’t agree with him coming back as a specialist batsman as I think he has some technical flaws and he simply isn’t playing red ball cricket
- he’s played much better in red ball cricket than I anticipated, fair play
- I hope he keeps it up and makes me very very wrong
 
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Once in a generation player!

Slogger no!

Just a fantastic player who adapts his game to the situation.
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That innings is exactly why he will be a success in the test arena, I even think he will move up the order to the top 5 eventually

chunkylover53 said:
Let me be very clear in my views then

- he’s an incredible one day player. I don’t think I’ve ever criticised him as a white ball player. His shot at the oval was shit, and I said so. I was also 8 pints in
- I would have no issue with him playing at 7 as a keeper batsman in all formats
- I didn’t agree with him coming back as a specialist batsman as I think he has some technical flaws and he simply isn’t playing red ball cricket
- he’s played much better in red ball cricket than I anticipated, fair play
- I hope he keeps it up and makes me very very wrong
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He is not just your typical one day player like Hales, he is a genuine quality batsman, good in defence, can occupy the crease

Absolutely no doubt he will be a success, doesn't need the gloves, is one of the 6 best batsman in England

As for criticism of his game management, its his absolute best quality, not many like him read the game and match situation

What a cricketer man, unreal
 
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chunkylover53 said:
Let me be very clear in my views then

- he’s an incredible one day player. I don’t think I’ve ever criticised him as a white ball player. His shot at the oval was shit, and I said so. I was also 8 pints in
- I would have no issue with him playing at 7 as a keeper batsman in all formats
- I didn’t agree with him coming back as a specialist batsman as I think he has some technical flaws and he simply isn’t playing red ball cricket
- he’s played much better in red ball cricket than I anticipated, fair play
- I hope he keeps it up and makes me very very wrong
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Fair enough post however you have criticized him. You were way OTT in your criticism of him in the first ODI 'poor game management, wont win world cups like that etc etc -yes it was a poor shot but the likes of Buttler, Morgan, Stokes, Roy, Hales etc are taking calculated gambles all of the time and ever so often they will get it wrong, they are bound to.
 
He’s clearly one of the best players in the world. It’s an absolute joke for people to argue he shouldn’t be in the test team. Some people need to give their heads a shake.
Absolute class today pacing the innings and marshalling the tail. A joy to watch.
 
rentaghost said:
Fair enough post however you have criticized him. You were way OTT in your criticism of him in the first ODI 'poor game management, wont win world cups like that etc etc -yes it was a poor shot but the likes of Buttler, Morgan, Stokes, Roy, Hales etc are taking calculated gambles all of the time and ever so often they will get it wrong, they are bound to.
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I was there and he didn’t play the situation at all. I’m all for giving freedom but he played 3 or 4 utterly horrible shots.

No one escapes criticism if they deserve it, just as he deserves huge praise for yesterday (and the tests even more)
 
chunkylover53 said:
I was there and he didn’t play the situation at all. I’m all for giving freedom but he played 3 or 4 utterly horrible shots.

No one escapes criticism if they deserve it, just as he deserves huge praise for yesterday (and the tests even more)
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But you said you have never criticised him as an ODI player ;)
 
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I criticised an innings. You well know there is a difference
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No it was weird:
1) You had slaughtered the selection of Buttler for tests and been absolutely scathing in his chances as a test player.
2) When he has batting very well in the tests your comments ranged from 'still not been tested against the moving ball' or 'this situation was made for him' type of stuff.
3) Yes he played a bad shot in an ODI game when we won comfortably but the nature of ODI games is that players regularly do and normally go without comment if players more often than not are producing great performances. It seemed a strange attack and there have been plenty of players out in this series to bad shots that has passed without comment. It seemed more to do with your dislike of Buttler.
4) Despite his tremendous performance in the next game of 91 not out and two other tremendous scores culminating in one of the best ODI knocks you are ever likely to see it was taken until now to pass any sort of positive comment.
 
rentaghost said:
No it was weird:
1) You had slaughtered the selection of Buttler for tests and been absolutely scathing in his chances as a test player.
2) When he has batting very well in the tests your comments ranged from 'still not been tested against the moving ball' or 'this situation was made for him' type of stuff.
3) Yes he played a bad shot in an ODI game when we won comfortably but the nature of ODI games is that players regularly do and normally go without comment if players more often than not are producing great performances. It seemed a strange attack and there have been plenty of players out in this series to bad shots that has passed without comment. It seemed more to do with your dislike of Buttler.
4) Despite his tremendous performance in the next game of 91 not out and two other tremendous scores culminating in one of the best ODI knocks you are ever likely to see it was taken until now to pass any sort of positive comment.
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1) yeah I was and I think he was very lucky to get a chance given he isn’t playing red ball cricket
2) sorry for not knee jerking. He played well clearly, but I don’t judge on a couple of innings
3) fine. But dislike him? He’s a cracking bloke it seems, I don’t dislike him at all
4) I haven’t seen much of it! I was at Le Mans for 5 days so missed games. I didn’t even see him bat yesterday!
 
Ian bell was a player that could look as if he would never get out, but then did to mid off from a totally mistimed shot.

he maintained a test place for ten years, doing this.

buttler is a world class talent, who all opposition teams fear

if the opposition fear a player, he should be first name on any team sheet
 
I've been twisting for ages about him and Morgan and to a lesser extent Hales. It was far too lazy by themselves and coaches to pigeon hole them as a certain type of player. They're just too talented to give up on tests.
 
Probably the most naturally gifted white ball cricketer we've had. Not only a great batsman but showed great ability with the gloves in this series.
 
chunkylover53 said:
Let me be very clear in my views then

- he’s an incredible one day player. I don’t think I’ve ever criticised him as a white ball player. His shot at the oval was shit, and I said so. I was also 8 pints in
- I would have no issue with him playing at 7 as a keeper batsman in all formats
- I didn’t agree with him coming back as a specialist batsman as I think he has some technical flaws and he simply isn’t playing red ball cricket
- he’s played much better in red ball cricket than I anticipated, fair play
- I hope he keeps it up and makes me very very wrong
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I think that ship has sailed marra
Fair enough but as pointed out you have been very critical of him even if you claim you haven’t.
You’re not the only one though.
 
chunkylover53 said:
In this run he has
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He’s played more than two tests for England in his career which is the relevant point

He did well in India and imo was harshly overlooked the following summer

He has performed exceptionally well for the ODI side for a long time, we’ve become the number one side in the world and just beat the current World champions 4-1 and 5-0.

There should always be a place in our international sides for a talent as good as his IMO.
 
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