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Simon Hughes on England’s batting problems

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And yet the only suggestion that he made that I haven't heard made before is to award a bonus point for 500 runs in the CC.
 
All the wider points people are making about the CC might be true, but the point is there is enough talent in that dressing room to get big scores, its about management and discipline, attitude.
 
The Rat said:
All the wider points people are making about the CC might be true, but the point is there is enough talent in that dressing room to get big scores, its about management and discipline, attitude.
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He's not talking about talent rather those other things you mentioned.
 
I think the chickens are coming home to roost now.
The effects of the one day game are simply impacting the batting techniques of players now not just here but all over the world.
I mean, how many great test match batsmen are there now worldwide?
A few maybe but not many, there are not that many who can really be described as very good.
I just see it as a slow lingering death, in 20 years or so test match cricket will be done.
 
vinegar hill said:
I think the chickens are coming home to roost now.
The effects of the one day game are simply impacting the batting techniques of players now not just here but all over the world.
I mean, how many great test match batsmen are there now worldwide?
A few maybe but not many, there are not that many who can really be described as very good.
I just see it as a slow lingering death, in 20 years or so test match cricket will be done.
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Don't agree at all
 
The sign of a really good batsman is been able to adapt to the situation or format, Players like kohli and Williamson are the best batsmen in the world because they adapt accordingly.

They is plenty of occasions in test where a team might want to score runs to give them time to bowl the the other team out,therefore having the ability to score runs quickly can be very useful in test cricket.
 
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What a f***ing stupid thing to say

You actually logged in and took the time out of your day to write that, dear me :lol:
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I have nothing but spare time at the moment, however, your “don’t agree at all” comment was much more enlightening.
 
Thebumble said:
I have nothing but spare time at the moment, however, your “don’t agree at all” comment was much more enlightening.
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I don't agree that test cricket will be dead in 20 years no, its massive in England, attendances are bigger now than they have been for a long time.
 
Overly inflated admission prices offer nothing for the working and family man. I’m not sure exactly the costs but Durham supposedly made a loss on paying the ECB nigh on £1,000,000 previously.

£75 per ticket for the last England game I went to at the Riverside. Any working class adult with kids simply couldn’t justify taking the 2.4 for a day of cricket at such a cost.

As much as the domestic T20 competition doesn’t provide as much quality cricket, in my opinion only, the £70 for 7 game offer cant be sniffed at.

Unless the hierarchy come to terms with the fact that test cricket needs to be made for appealing to others than the prawn sarnie brigade and the MCC candy rock looking roll it will demise, and fast.
 
vinegar hill said:
I think the chickens are coming home to roost now.
The effects of the one day game are simply impacting the batting techniques of players now not just here but all over the world.
I mean, how many great test match batsmen are there now worldwide?
A few maybe but not many, there are not that many who can really be described as very good.
I just see it as a slow lingering death, in 20 years or so test match cricket will be done.
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The technique of modern batsman is shambolic. I see these blokes talked up as modern day legends and they just look like sloggers to me:oops:

They could never deal with a spell of sustained express pace bowling, warne / murali turning it sideways, or even the likes of Vaas, McGrath, Streak, Srinath bowling it 2 inches past off stump & moving it around a bit off the seam.
 
Most tests nowadays finish within 4 days. This shows that today's batsmen, on the whole, don't know how to dig in and battle. Too keen to have a go. I'm not advocating going back to the days when 220-4 was the norm but if you look back 10-15 years, games, and the batsmen of that period seemed to have it all.
 
Ageing trundler said:
Most tests nowadays finish within 4 days. This shows that today's batsmen, on the whole, don't know how to dig in and battle. Too keen to have a go. I'm not advocating going back to the days when 220-4 was the norm but if you look back 10-15 years, games, and the batsmen of that period seemed to have it all.
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and lately England don't seem to be able to battle for a draw. It seems to be either win easy or lose easy. An aspect of the same problem I think.
 
Test matches are incorrectly named nowadays, too many players (England's of late) treat a Test Match like two one day games stuck together, the art of playing a ball on its merit seems lost on too many of our batsmen.
 
The Rat said:
I don't agree that test cricket will be dead in 20 years no, its massive in England, attendances are bigger now than they have been for a long time.
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I hope I'm proved wrong mate, because I love Test Match cricket.
You're right it's still massive in England but it's everywhere else you worry about, the Asian sub continent and the West Indies in particular.
 
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