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England team announced tomorrow

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My point was that they are all defensive minded and none of them have an ounce of creativity. In my opinion we can afford to play one of them and thats Dier. We need someone looking to probe with a pass and move the ball forward.
Oh fuck you just know he’s thinking Voldemort
 
Keane is good enough but feel for him this season stuck alongside Kenny/Martina with the former being inexperienced and the latter being gash, and a constant swap of Williams and Jags alongside him week after week who are both finished.

I think providing we bring in a good manager in the summer and sign a quality CB to partner him and stick to a regular defensive partnership he'll really come into his own next season.

Not a massive fan of lascelles tbh, think hes over hyped more because he's english and snarls and barks at his team mates so the media get a semi on over "leadership qualities".
 
Keane is good enough but feel for him this season stuck alongside Kenny/Martina with the former being inexperienced and the latter being gash, and a constant swap of Williams and Jags alongside him week after week who are both finished.

I think providing we bring in a good manager in the summer and sign a quality CB to partner him and stick to a regular defensive partnership he'll really come into his own next season.

Not a massive fan of lacelles tbh, think hes over hyped more because he's english and snarls and barks at his team mates so the media get a semi on over "leadership qualities".

Who exactly is hyping him? Agree on Keane and id also throw Pickford in. They have been let down by your other defensive frailties.
 
The England team will be annouced tomorrow for the upcoming friendlies.

Who is going to predictably be in the squad that doesnt deserve it and who do we think should be in with a chance that more than likely wont?

My opinion -
Will that doesnt deserve it - Cahill, Jones, Hart and Livermore

That deserve it and wont - Pope, Mee, Tarkowski or Lascelles. (im aware of the oncoming storm that last name will cause)
Lascelles fuck off man
 
got a cousin visiting from overseas who loves english footy, gonna do 6 matches/grounds in a week. and a couple of days in London.

only £20 for ticket. hopefully leave before half time and go on the piss
I suppose £20 and if you are there anyway is understandable, still don't see the attraction mesel like.
 
Who exactly is hyping him?

The media seem to rate him quite highly seen him linked with us and Liverpool aswell. You lads obviously see more of him than me to judge but from what I've seen he seems to bark orders about at his team mates and the commentators always mention the effects his leadership has on the defence.

Personally think we have little to no top quality defenders in general.
 
I suppose £20 and if you are there anyway is understandable, still don't see the attraction mesel like.

nah, if it was a qualifier i still wouldn't fancy it, unless it was a 'crucial' game. Italy are no great shakes these days either so probably be a shit match

going to Spennymoor away Gainsborough Trinity on good friday and genuinely looking forward to that more
 
The media seem to rate him quite highly seen him linked with us and Liverpool aswell. You lads obviously see more of him than me to judge but from what I've seen he seems to bark orders about at his team mates and the commentators always mention the effects his leadership has on the defence.

Personally think we have little to no top quality defenders in general.

We are undeniably a better more solid defensive unit when he is in our team. The stats back it up. Considering he has played and organised at times Clark, Manquillo and Dummett you can see why he is getting praise haha.
 
Livermore, Dier and Henderson are all the same type of player. Id like to see Wilshere finish the season strong. We need more creativity than the three listed above.
Henderson plays some great forward passes like but he's restricted by his role at Liverpool.
 
I used the go mental over the lad - he looked worse than poor. That said recently he has shown to be a strong communicator and leader and that defence has noone that can do that. Im not saying he is a world beater but he is playing and in good form at moment.
So he should play for England because he can shout and lead. Righteo
 
It'll be a sick joke if Hart gets a call up ahead of Pope. Worst save percentage in the Premier League. Rewarding failure.
 
So he should play for England because he can shout and lead. Righteo

Everton spent 30m on Pickford and 30m on Keane and have conceded 9 goals more than us a newly promoted team. Arsenal have conceded more than us to.

The England team has no leaders and whether you like it or not the above shows that something is working in our defence.
 
Everton spent 30m on Pickford and 30m on Keane and have conceded 9 goals more than us a newly promoted team. Arsenal have conceded more than us to.

The England team has no leaders and whether you like it or not the above shows that something is working in our defence.
You want your leader to be able to match the other players abilities in the team. I wouldnt select joe hart but hes no more a leader than joe hart, would you put joe hart in goal because hes a leader?
 
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