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Scimmy said:
I have a serious question. Black lads call each other the "N" word in a jocular way. What if there were a white guy in their circle of friends: would it be racist for him to call his mate the "N" word in a jocular way?
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Depends really, if you’re good mates with someone you know what you can get away with.

Funnily enough when I was in the smoking shelter today a couple of lads from another team were taking the piss out of each other and one was saying to the other (who’s black) that he must be shitting himself because he’ll have never seen snow before.
 
Scimmy said:
I have a serious question. Black lads call each other the "N" word in a jocular way. What if there were a white guy in their circle of friends: would it be racist for him to call his mate the "N" word in a jocular way?
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It’s really not that hard.
Here’s an analogy for you. You’re in the pub with your mates and someone tells a story about how he did something stupid. You say ‘what we’re you thinking man you daft c**t?’ No harm no foul right?

Now you go home and your Mam tells you she locked herself out the car. Do you say ‘what we’re you thinking man you daft c**t?’? I would expect not but I don’t know the dynamic between you and your Mam (assuming she’s still aliven and you have a reasonably convivial relationship - work with me here!)

Say you’re single and you’re in a bar trying to pull a stunning bewer who is clearly from the right side of the tracks. Do you slip a ‘c**t’ into the conversation to see how she’ll react, or do you play it safe and mind your Ps and Qs, as you don’t want to do anything to disrupt the possibility of you pulling a snog by the end of the night?

You’re at work and your supervisor is showing round a group of executives. Do you act polite to give the impression that you and your crew are all professional and efficient and doing a great job or do you ask your supervisor ‘wheez this bunch of c**ts you’re bringing round graft?’?

You’re interviewing for a new job with a female boss. She asks you why you left your last job. Do you say ‘cos my last boss was a conniving c**t’?

Context is everything. Anyone who doesn’t know basic decorum such as how to behave in the above scenarios is taking up too much space on this planet. Anyone who complains ‘it’s too hard trying to keep up with what we’re supposed to call non white people’ is too thick to deserve any more oxygen. It’s not that hard.

one gary owers said:
I concur

The only people except John who say this are Black But we can't say It

Its P C gone crazey
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Get a grip man. Is your life really so incomplete coz you’re not allowed to say ‘nigger’ in front of Black lads even though you’re aware some of them say it to each other?

Tadger said:
The funniest thing about stuff like this is the reaction from other people. The collective shitting of pants from everyone, from the presenters to the top brass.
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:D

I forget the context but some caller said ‘fuck’ on CNN the other week and the hosts were absolutely crapping themselves falling over themselves to apologise to the audience.
It’s not your fault man, calm down - nobody’s blaming you and your FCC licence won’t be revoked.
 
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Tex said:
It’s really not that hard.
Here’s an analogy for you. You’re in the pub with your mates and someone tells a story about how he did something stupid. You say ‘what we’re you thinking man you daft c**t?’ No harm no foul right?

Now you go home and your Mam tells you she locked herself out the car. Do you say ‘what we’re you thinking man you daft c**t?’? I would expect not but I don’t know the dynamic between you and your Mam (assuming she’s still aliven and you have a reasonably convivial relationship - work with me here!)

Say you’re single and you’re in a bar trying to pull a stunning bewer who is clearly from the right side of the tracks. Do you slip a ‘c**t’ into the conversation to see how she’ll react, or do you play it safe and mind your Ps and Qs, as you don’t want to do anything to disrupt the possibility of you pulling a snog by the end of the night?

You’re at work and your supervisor is showing round a group of executives. Do you act polite to give the impression that you and your crew are all professional and efficient and doing a great job or do you ask your supervisor ‘wheez this bunch of c**ts you’re bringing round graft?’?

You’re interviewing for a new job with a female boss. She asks you why you left your last job. Do you say ‘cos my last boss was a conniving c**t’?

Context is everything. Anyone who doesn’t know basic decorum such as how to behave in the above scenarios is taking up too much space on this planet. Anyone who complains ‘it’s too hard trying to keep up with what we’re supposed to call non white people’ is too thick to deserve any more oxygen. It’s not that hard.


Get a grip man. Is your life really so incomplete coz you’re not allowed to say ‘nigger’ in front of Black lads even though you’re aware some of them say it to each other?


:D

I forget the context but some caller said ‘fuck’ on CNN the other week and the hosts were absolutely crapping themselves falling over themselves to apologise to the audience.
It’s not your fault man, calm down - nobody’s blaming you and your FCC licence won’t be revoked.
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Its canny sad that you even had to say it, but that was a quality post
 
Tex said:
It’s really not that hard.
Here’s an analogy for you. You’re in the pub with your mates and someone tells a story about how he did something stupid. You say ‘what we’re you thinking man you daft c**t?’ No harm no foul right?

Now you go home and your Mam tells you she locked herself out the car. Do you say ‘what we’re you thinking man you daft c**t?’? I would expect not but I don’t know the dynamic between you and your Mam (assuming she’s still aliven and you have a reasonably convivial relationship - work with me here!)

Say you’re single and you’re in a bar trying to pull a stunning bewer who is clearly from the right side of the tracks. Do you slip a ‘c**t’ into the conversation to see how she’ll react, or do you play it safe and mind your Ps and Qs, as you don’t want to do anything to disrupt the possibility of you pulling a snog by the end of the night?

You’re at work and your supervisor is showing round a group of executives. Do you act polite to give the impression that you and your crew are all professional and efficient and doing a great job or do you ask your supervisor ‘wheez this bunch of c**ts you’re bringing round graft?’?

You’re interviewing for a new job with a female boss. She asks you why you left your last job. Do you say ‘cos my last boss was a conniving c**t’?

Context is everything. Anyone who doesn’t know basic decorum such as how to behave in the above scenarios is taking up too much space on this planet. Anyone who complains ‘it’s too hard trying to keep up with what we’re supposed to call non white people’ is too thick to deserve any more oxygen. It’s not that hard.


Get a grip man. Is your life really so incomplete coz you’re not allowed to say ‘nigger’ in front of Black lads even though you’re aware some of them say it to each other?
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Does your life have to be incomplete to question summit like?

I think we have inherited some shit from American culture which we never had a while ago.
 
GK said:
Its canny sad that you even had to say it, but that was a quality post
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Ta. This bollocks comes up from time to time on here and it’s pathetic really.

James Brown sang ‘Say It Loud, I’m Black And I’m Proud’ in 1968. That’s fifty years we’ve had to get used to it!

I’ve got loads of African American friends and on occasion I’ve pulled someone up for saying ‘nigger’ in front of me. It’s such an objectionable word and I’ve said when White people hear you saying that some will think it gives them licence to say it too, so it’s best just avoided. I cannot stand to listen to old Richard Pryor stuff with him throwing it around all the time, and as much as I love Chris Rock I wish he would knock it on the head too. He used to do a ‘bit’ - “I LOVE my Black people, but the niggers got to GO!” but he stopped doing it cause of objections. The context is still there when he does stuff like that video ‘how not to get arrested when the cops stop you’.

Strangely my missus is African and unless they’ve been in America a while her family don’t even seem to know the word much less use it.

scott934 said:
Does your life have to be incomplete to question summit like?

I think we have inherited some shit from American culture which we never had a while ago.
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It’s not just ‘questioning summit’ though is it? It’s a ridiculously obtuse wilfully ignorant question and we all know it.
 
Tex said:
It’s not just ‘questioning summit’ though is it? It’s a ridiculously obtuse wilfully ignorant question and we all know it.
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I don't think it was wilfully ignorant, he was talking about calling a mate "nigger". Not screaming it at a stranger. That's not for anyone to police, just like calling your mate a "****" in your example.
 
gillythedilf said:
Correct ,

When I was young if you called someone “black “ the teachers would chuck you out the school.It was coloured people back then.

Same goes for mixed race ,it was half cast then .



It’s all a load of f***ing bollocks tbh .
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You can’t call someone coloured man everyone is coloured it’s like saying what sauce do you want . Oh I’ll have coloured

The people that generally struggle with what to say and how to say things and have to actually think things through are generally the ones that have racist tendencies
 
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wakey wakey said:
You can’t call someone coloured man everyone is coloured it’s like saying what sauce do you want . Oh I’ll have coloured

The people that generally struggle with what to say and how to say things and have to actually think things through are generally the ones that have racist tendencies
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All I’m saying is for 30 year or so “coloured “ was the polite thing to say when describing a person of African decent and “black “ was seen as racist .

I’d say people who struggle what to say arnt racist ,just don’t know many blacks .Especially up here in the north east .
 
cluffy said:
Am I imagining it or have we not had loads of shit white people playing for us too over the last 40 year??
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Black, white, Asian, doesn't matter, knowing our luck we'd make contact with aliens, we'd sign the first Martian to the league, he'd defy earths gravity, be able to leap 9 foot in the air and he'd still turn out to be shit, injury prone and on a massive contract sucking us dry
 
gillythedilf said:
All I’m saying is for 30 year or so “coloured “ was the polite thing to say when describing a person of African decent and “black “ was seen as racist .

I’d say people who struggle what to say arnt racist ,just don’t know many blacks .Especially up here in the north east .
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What difference does it make if you know someone black on how to speak to someone it’s irrelavant what colour they are,coloured applies to anyone was a Chinese person refered to as coloured aswell? I agree with people from the northeast struggle prob because the fact it was such a racist place in the past and it’s hard to get out of bad habits that have been past down the generations
 
Surely the main point was the blokes suggestion was farcical anyway even if he'd said black instead of n** n**?
He can't have seen billy Jones play for a start
 
wakey wakey said:
What difference does it make if you know someone black on how to speak to someone it’s irrelavant what colour they are,coloured applies to anyone was a Chinese person refered to as coloured aswell? I agree with people from the northeast struggle prob because the fact it was such a racist place in the past and it’s hard to get out of bad habits that have been past down the generations
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Was it really?
 
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