The Clubs Identity...

[Biggusdickus]

We are just a football club with a fantastic history that is forgotten in this modern age.

We will rise again!

We are Sunderland!

We wont mate. Honestly the titanic has more chance of rising than we do.

 

[safc_grindon]

It’s not. The last 6 jobs I’ve applied for have been given to these people.

You're talking about print and digital media? If so, that's just not true, sorry. If you want me to start reeling off the journos that aren't ex-players, Scots or Irish, I will, but it would be a very long list...

Columnists, maybe, but if you've set out for a job in football writing and just want to write columns, you're probably barking up the wrong goalpost.

Apologies if you meant something else.

 

[ShaabanShaaban]

You're talking about print and digital media? If so, that's just not true, sorry. If you want me to start reeling off the journos that aren't ex-players, Scots or Irish, I will, but it would be a very long list...

Columnists, maybe, but if you've set out for a job in football writing and just want to write columns, you're probably barking up the wrong goalpost.

Apologies if you meant something else.

I’m talking about TV and newspapers. Non-regional.

 

[Useless at Roker]

100% agree

For me it was the Derby and Cambridge. Wherever my Dad wasn’t.

Ilook at all teams and it’s the same everywhere mercenaries and journeymen that badge kiss.

The New England shirt looks like it’s from a video game.

Give me shit football, Elliott, Rowell, Armstrong, Gates, and Atkinson any day of the week as you felt connected to them.

It’s not an age thing, it’s an awakening to the fact that there is no relevance to my daily life and aspiration.

... seems to be completely and utterly lost. What are we? A club for the working classes of Sunderland to go and let loose on a weekend, being connected to an entity that they could all relate too as a child, kicking a ball around a derelict field with their friends?

Or are we a high-end upper class model of a club now, which has only the commercially rich at heart and everything else that happens in a bonus?

What has happened here? I recall the walk down to Roker Park from The Cambridge, thinking “this is the best thing to do on a Saturday” whereas now, I feel completely disconnected from the club to the point where I’m absolutely indifferent about their results, as if they’re some forgotten limb.

I hate what’s happening to our club. Is this the way Football is, or is it just Sunderland?

My point is, we’ve been shit before. When I went to my first match, I think Buxton was in charge, and we got pasted 3-0 or near enough by someone equally as shit (Portsmouth or Tranmere perhaps), but that was more acceptable than this is now.

Even under Buxton it was still Sunderland AFC.

It’s not that they are shit it’s that they are shit and don’t care for us, they don’t feel it. Think what you will of Mickey Gray but he was proud through the shit days and proud in the good, and I felt connected.

You are spot on.

The club has been run by people who do not have the best interest of safc at heart. They are not football fans, know nothing about the club and it’s history and the club is now totally lost.

We need a whole new direction and we do indeed have to decide who we are and what we want to be.

This commences with the demise of short and Bain

As a club we will find our level and be it is League 2 or worse I don’t care. Get local people back running the club and relate to the fans.

I remember when we actually used to choose the shirts.

 

[safc_grindon]

I’m talking about TV and newspapers. Non-regional.

If you're a pundit for TV, then, of course, it makes sense to be an ex-player. I wouldn't have thought you'd be going for that job anyway. Reporting, on screen - you'd be an experienced journalist, probably ex radio and/or print media. Simon Crabtree, Matt Critchley, etc. Production, you'd have TV experience.

If you're looking for a reporter's role in print, at a national level, then I'm struggling to think why you'd think you need to be an ex-player, Scots or Irish? Sure it wouldn't hurt to have been a player, but that wouldn't be enough, and I can't see any advantages of being Scots/Irish? Unless you're applying for jobs on The View at Celtic Park...

Where were you applying, and for what roles? Your business, of course, but other than columnist (not really a 'job' in itself), there's not a position in newspapers that you'd not get for not being an ex-player, Scots or Irish.

 

[Dilligaf60]

Did you feel that way 2 seasons ago when we played Chelsea and Everton?

Those were the last two games I saw my team win.

 

[RichD]

The only good thing about the club is the fans, yet the club took us for granted and has constently given us nothing back in return...

 

[stockton]

The club’s identity is toxic.

And unfortunately a large amount of the SAFC support hasn’t got a good word to say about the town the club plays in.

Contrast this to the likes of Newcastle, Leeds, the Manchester clubs, even Boro, all their supporters tend to align with the town as well as the football club.

There is only Coventry I know of who has supporters as negative about the town their club is located in.

 

[GunneeerzAbroad]

I hate what’s happening to our club. Is this the way Football is, or is it just Sunderland?

Just football, it's become a brand.