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The Clubs Identity...

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The only identity we have at the moment is this:

- Shite team, total pushovers;
- Masses of empty seats on show;
- Pink seats
- Solid away following;
- Restless fans that quickly turn on the players;
- Poor organisation amongst the fans as no one can agree on anything;
- No money.
 

ShaabanShaaban said:
... seems to be completely and utterly lost. What are we? A club for the working classes of Sunderland to go and let loose on a weekend, being connected to an entity that they could all relate too as a child, kicking a ball around a derelict field with their friends?

Or are we a high-end upper class model of a club now, which has only the commercially rich at heart and everything else that happens in a bonus?

What has happened here? I recall the walk down to Roker Park from The Cambridge, thinking “this is the best thing to do on a Saturday” whereas now, I feel completely disconnected from the club to the point where I’m absolutely indifferent about their results, as if they’re some forgotten limb.

I hate what’s happening to our club. Is this the way Football is, or is it just Sunderland?
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You are spot on.

The club has been run by people who do not have the best interest of safc at heart. They are not football fans, know nothing about the club and it’s history and the club is now totally lost.

We need a whole new direction and we do indeed have to decide who we are and what we want to be.

This commences with the demise of short and Bain
 
RedFlag1308 said:
We have an identity, sadly it isnt a good one. We are seen as a traditional club whos culture is stuck in the 70's, the Johnson situation tarnished us greatly too. We are a wasteland to many and Club 28-40's for pissheads. People are sympathetic to us because we are a salt of the earth fan base. you just have to read the press to see what our 'identity' is, the fact that we moan on here about the sheer quantity of 'anti' safc media shows just how the world perceive us we are quicksand.
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The Di Canio appointment was the start and Johnson situation was the clincher. Neutrals now have an opinion on us whereas before they will of only thought safc didn’t deserve its fans.

Buchans Boots said:
You are spot on.

The club has been run by people who do not have the best interest of safc at heart. They are not football fans, know nothing about the club and it’s history and the club is now totally lost.

We need a whole new direction and we do indeed have to decide who we are and what we want to be.

This commences with the demise of short and Bain
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Fan owned is my preference.
If Wimbledon can get mid table 1st div then we can get top end Championship then owt can happen. It’d reconnect the club to the area like nivver before.
 
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riffraff said:
The Di Canio appointment was the start and Johnson situation was the clincher. Neutrals now have an opinion on us whereas before they will of only thought safc didn’t deserve its fans.



Fan owned is my preference.
If Wimbledon can get mid table 1st div then we can get top end Championship then owt can happen. It’d reconnect the club to the area like nivver before.
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At the very least I would like to see one or two fans on the board, credible fans who would be taken seriously by our own fans and any new board.

I do agree with your sentiments wholeheartedly
 
We're not a football club at all at the moment imho . Achieving excellence in football is not a priority or even a concern.
We are a highly leveraged and failing franchise business on the brink of insolvency with a promise of 18 months of appreciable income in the form of parachute payments and then after that literally nothing.
 
Parkmaverick said:
Our so called injured, slighted and loaned out stars could do with seeing this type of thing.
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The sad thing is.... it wouldn't make one iota of difference to them.

They are just mollycoddled young men, who have agents instead of an ability to think for themselves. If they had any fight, dignity or hurt, we'd have seen some signs of it before now.

Like many of our fans, they shrug their shoulders dismissively and say "what can I do?". The club means nowt to them in the scheme of things.
 
Dmac1969 said:
Colliery Park would have been good as a nod to the history of the site.
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Wearmouth Park. That pays tribute to the sites past without looking too far backwards. Also mentions the river and that we’re on the coast which has to also be for the good of the city itself. I don’t think people who’ve never lived outside the NE realise how little geographical knowledge of the NE the average UK citizen has. Every little bit helps.

I’ve hated the SOL name since day one. I actually thought it was a mag wind up at first. The rushed explanation of miners lamp tosh that emerged in the following days was pathetic.
 
gipetto said:
The only identity we have at the moment is this:

- Shite team, total pushovers;
- Masses of empty seats on show;
- Pink seats
- Solid away following;
- Restless fans that quickly turn on the players;
- Poor organisation amongst the fans as no one can agree on anything;
- No money.
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by far the greatest team the world has ever seen at all of the above
 
ShaabanShaaban said:
I certainly hope so. My entire youth was based upon Football, culminating in my academic studies, studying Sports Journalism so I could write about it. Seems like I’ve wasted my days doing it.
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Dunno how old you are but journalisms been dying for nigh on 20 yrs. I remember a couple of em in my old east London local whinging about it in the run up the millennium celebrations.
 
Parkmaverick said:
Our so called injured, slighted and loaned out stars could do with seeing this type of thing.
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Honestly, they really could. I don't normally go in for this 'give the fans a few minutes in the dressing room with them' kind of thing. But sat there in the car park queue after the game yesterday, watching this bloke hoisting his son in his wheelchair into the back of his car / van, helped by his other son, was just one example of the effort that some people, no doubt with really hard lives Monday - Friday, go to to watch the games. All they want is to spend some supposed quality time with each other in what should be an enjoyable experience, but is ruined because of others' greed / laziness / contempt / weakness, just really drove it home to me.

Just like at Barnsley earlier in the season when I ran up the hill after the game, saw the disabled branch supporters beginning to get helped back on the coach, minutes after seeing Khazri coming out for the match with a coffee cup in hand, Kone laughing at the fans as he walked off after the 3-0 shambles, etc.

I don't mean to be patronising towards people with disabilities, and plenty of our fans make other less obvious sacrifices, but if these wankers who run and play for the club knew anything of real life they wouldn't be nervous of kicking a football, walk past autograph collectors with headphones on ignoring them, spend match days in the Metrocentre, or ask for embarrassing shite to be put on their social media accounts.
 
ShaabanShaaban said:
... seems to be completely and utterly lost. What are we? A club for the working classes of Sunderland to go and let loose on a weekend, being connected to an entity that they could all relate too as a child, kicking a ball around a derelict field with their friends?

Or are we a high-end upper class model of a club now, which has only the commercially rich at heart and everything else that happens in a bonus?

What has happened here? I recall the walk down to Roker Park from The Cambridge, thinking “this is the best thing to do on a Saturday” whereas now, I feel completely disconnected from the club to the point where I’m absolutely indifferent about their results, as if they’re some forgotten limb.

I hate what’s happening to our club. Is this the way Football is, or is it just Sunderland?
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Did you feel that way 2 seasons ago when we played Chelsea and Everton?
 
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