Adam Johnson

[FishburnMackem]

id have him back for his ability - he will have done his time paid his cost to society and should be allowed to continue with his career just like ordinary folk would be allowed


and dont forget Bill Wyman!! really got away with one he did

Where was your avatar taken and when?

 

[lord of light]

Where was your avatar taken and when?

no idea mate - why?

 

[FishburnMackem]

I suggest you educate yourself with some of the things the girl had had to put up with.
I'll not name names but one was jailed for 16 weeks for harrassment.

Neither were an innocent party.

I still agree that he is an utterly dispicable person mind.

no idea mate - why?

Just caught my eye big Nige and Reece-Mogg having a sly cuppa

 

[lord of light]

Neither were an innocent party.

I still agree that he is an utterly dispicable person mind.



Just caught my eye big Nige and Reece-Mogg having a sly cuppa

lol yeah i liked it too - both controversial characters whom I quite like for kicking against the pricks

 

[FishburnMackem]

lol yeah i liked it too - both controversial characters whom I quite like for kicking against the pricks

Absolutely marra

 

[JonnotheMackem]

Look what you've done OP.

I hope you're pleased with yourself.

 

[kwillhen]

I'm aware of the circumstances. I follow Sunderland. Does this mean that killing someone is not as bad as what AJ did in your view?

No, Im not saying that, what im saying is AJ was premedated they are both terrible and thats not im saying. AJ planned this, Alonso didnt plan it. Im not saying thats its better or worse the rights and wrongs of our justice system need to be looked at but i dont know how people can het past the fact he abused his poaituon and groomed an underage girl.

This is my last post on the thread as its pointless hes never coming back to Sunderland

 

[Barnacle Boy]

For any lazy journalists reading - We'd sooner have AJ back at SAFC than Jack Colback

 

[Hep]

I suggest you educate yourself with some of the things the girl had had to put up with.
I'll not name names but one was jailed for 16 weeks for harrassment.

I'm not aware of what else has happened, but I would guess Johnson wasn't involved as he's still inside.

Open question, if it was your daughter how would you have handled it?

No, Im not saying that, what im saying is AJ was premedated they are both terrible and thats not im saying. AJ planned this, Alonso didnt plan it. Im not saying thats its better or worse the rights and wrongs of our justice system need to be looked at but i dont know how people can het past the fact he abused his poaituon and groomed an underage girl.

This is my last post on the thread as its pointless hes never coming back to Sunderland

Do you think Johnson sat down and planned it or do you think he was just thick.

 

[Baccyboozenbullets]

You work in the prison, or have had a holiday there? Pretty accurate description of how it works

Bit of a twat when a was a nipper. Nowt big just used to like a ruck.

Whilst it is the sun, there's a lot you aren't allowed to do in prison that people do.

I know

 

[sidneyeric]

Comparing the two cases is crazy, AJ left his home and drove somewhere to meet zn underaged girl he groomed! Alonzo did not leave his home thinking im going to kill someone.

Premedated, groomed, abused position. Why dont people get it it!

What about this fella ? if you are going to drive pissed and drugged up on Coke at double the speed limit with no licence surely you must know there's a chance you could kill someone ?

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[maghater]

But that is not the case if you are a doctor, lawyer or a teacher etc... so its not any job. He can fuck off to be honest. I can't believe anyone that followed the actual court case, and all that came out in that, could support him. He is a horrible ****.

But he isn't a doctor lawyer or teacher (although sentences handed down to some teachers for related offences have bean much less severe), he is a footballer, who allowed his fame to cloud his judgment. We are not talking about a serial offender, we are talking about a man who by all accounts isn't the sharpest chisel in the tool box . Graham Rix,who was in his 40s had full on sex with a 15 year old girl got 12 months, and Chelsea kept his job as a coach open, even went on to manage them an other teams

 

[sidneyeric]

I suggest you educate yourself with some of the things the girl had had to put up with.
I'll not name names but one was jailed for 16 weeks for harrassment.

Jailed because he kept putting the lasses name and picture up which is contempt of court, how did she feel when she was messaging Connor whickam shortly after it all happened ? she got and still is getting a load of stick because of what she puts online and the way she acts, you need to get yourself educated on the facts.

 

[JohnnyM1]

For any lazy journalists reading - We'd sooner have AJ back at SAFC than Jack Colback

and that would label us just what exactly? (not that I want ginga jack anywhere near)

 

[Scorer]

But he isn't a doctor lawyer or teacher (although sentences handed down to some teachers for related offences have bean much less severe), he is a footballer, who allowed his fame to cloud his judgment. We are not talking about a serial offender, we are talking about a man who by all accounts isn't the sharpest chisel in the tool box . Graham Rix,who was in his 40s had full on sex with a 15 year old girl got 12 months, and Chelsea kept his job as a coach open, even went on to manage them an other teams

I don't know if the sentence guidelines have changed since Rix but the overall understanding and public awareness of grooming has. The sentence may seem harsh alongside others but that doesn't mean it wasn't appropriate or deserved. Johnson clearly had some fairly unhealthy interests given the material found on his devices and the judge is probably the only person, other than Johnson, with a fully informed position in this case. Once he's served his sentence and received whatever rehab is prescribed then he's obviously free to rebuild his life. That doesn't necessarily equate to him being a better person or deserving of being able to continue in his original profession and we'd be absolutely insane to have anything to do with him.

 

[Barnacle Boy]

and that would label us just what exactly? (not that I want ginga jack anywhere near)

Glad you agree

 

[newcomer]

But that means he's been punished for being famous. Yes, what he did was wrong, but his sentence needs to be in line with other who did a similar thing.

Which they werent as looking at other cases with a similiar background the sentencing was far less stringent

I don't know if the sentence guidelines have changed since Rix but the overall understanding and public awareness of grooming has. The sentence may seem harsh alongside others but that doesn't mean it wasn't appropriate or deserved. Johnson clearly had some fairly unhealthy interests given the material found on his devices and the judge is probably the only person, other than Johnson, with a fully informed position in this case. Once he's served his sentence and received whatever rehab is prescribed then he's obviously free to rebuild his life. That doesn't necessarily equate to him being a better person or deserving of being able to continue in his original profession and we'd be absolutely insane to have anything to do with him.

yhe sentencing guidelines have been changed, a much more technical approach is now taken

the sentencing guidelines are structured to enable sentencing to be based on a different format

I don't know if the sentence guidelines have changed since Rix but the overall understanding and public awareness of grooming has. The sentence may seem harsh alongside others but that doesn't mean it wasn't appropriate or deserved. Johnson clearly had some fairly unhealthy interests given the material found on his devices and the judge is probably the only person, other than Johnson, with a fully informed position in this case. Once he's served his sentence and received whatever rehab is prescribed then he's obviously free to rebuild his life. That doesn't necessarily equate to him being a better person or deserving of being able to continue in his original profession and we'd be absolutely insane to have anything to do with him.

Public awareness of paedophilia is much greater. But as I stated earlier its not going to happen

Which they werent as looking at other cases with a similiar background the sentencing was far less stringent


yhe sentencing guidelines have been changed, a much more technical approach is now taken

the sentencing guidelines are structured to enable sentencing to be based on a different format


Public awareness of paedophilia is much greater. But as I stated earlier its not going to happen

Jailed because he kept putting the lasses name and picture up which is contempt of court, how did she feel when she was messaging Connor whickam shortly after it all happened ? she got and still is getting a load of stick because of what she puts online and the way she acts, you need to get yourself educated on the facts.

it is erverting the course of justice not contempt

The age is important too she was fifteen I remember (before paedophilia was given so much attention ) that it was not uncommon for fifteen year olds to sleep around as they were treated as adults. Things have changed on other fronts too you could leave school at fifteen until fairly recently. Fifteen year olds give birth but in most cases that is the end i.e no follow up court case. In fact it would be interesting to find out how many posters on here have had sex with their fifteen year old girl friends. The whole character of these relationships is a huge grey area.

Sorry, what?

Are you suggesting he was innocent? He pleaded guilty. So how didn’t he have a fair trial?

The fact that he pleaded guilty as he knew he was on a hiding to nothing and he pleaded guilty on advice from his counsel most of the spadework on these cases/trials takes place before the actual day in court

Where was your avatar taken and when?

Jerry Lee Lewis married his thirteen year old cousin

If you serve your sentence, and conform to any license restrictions imposed on your release, I think anyone should be able to pick up the pieces of their life and move on. Would people prefer ex offenders to remain unemployed and sponge off the state, or find employment and contribute to society through taxes etc.

Common sense but he would have to be very brave

 

[Johnnyh]

I'm not aware of what else has happened, but I would guess Johnson wasn't involved as he's still inside.

Open question, if it was your daughter how would you have handled it?


Do you think Johnson sat down and planned it or do you think he was

What about this fella ? if you are going to drive pissed and drugged up on Coke at double the speed limit with no licence surely you must know there's a chance you could kill someone ?

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Absolutely spot on mate.

 

[chunkyshanhawk53]

Which they werent as looking at other cases with a similiar background the sentencing was far less stringent


yhe sentencing guidelines have been changed, a much more technical approach is now taken

the sentencing guidelines are structured to enable sentencing to be based on a different format


Public awareness of paedophilia is much greater. But as I stated earlier its not going to happen




it is erverting the course of justice not contempt

The age is important too she was fifteen I remember (before paedophilia was given so much attention ) that it was not uncommon for fifteen year olds to sleep around as they were treated as adults. Things have changed on other fronts too you could leave school at fifteen until fairly recently. Fifteen year olds give birth but in most cases that is the end i.e no follow up court case. In fact it would be interesting to find out how many posters on here have had sex with their fifteen year old girl friends. The whole character of these relationships is a huge grey area.


The fact that he pleaded guilty as he knew he was on a hiding to nothing and he pleaded guilty on advice from his counsel most of the spadework on these cases/trials takes place before the actual day in court


Jerry Lee Lewis married his thirteen year old cousin


Common sense but he would have to be very brave

Are you suggesting he was not guilty and was thus unfairly convicted?

 

[Peter123]

You think it's right that the 15 year old girl here is the one that should be harrassed for her part in it? If you had a 15 year old daughter being groomed by a professional footballer you'd apportion the blame to her and think she deserves all she gets?
Clearly many take the view that she 'knew what she was doing', and somehow this makes it ok. She was 15 years old.

Jailed because he kept putting the lasses name and picture up which is contempt of court, how did she feel when she was messaging Connor whickam shortly after it all happened ? she got and still is getting a load of stick because of what she puts online and the way she acts, you need to get yourself educated on the facts.

I'm not aware of what else has happened, but I would guess Johnson wasn't involved as he's still inside.

Open question, if it was your daughter how would you have handled it?


Do you think Johnson sat down and planned it or do you think he was just thick.

I wasn't meaning to be patronising Hep but reading it back I probably came across that way. If it was my daughter first and foremost I'd be fuming at Johnson. However mature a 15 year old might be it's pretty difficult I'd imagine not to get carried away when a professional footballer shows an interest.
All I was saying is that she suffered a lot from judgements at the time and clearly is still suffering here. A lot to cope with at 15 years old. Whether it's 'ruined' her life I guess only she can tell.