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Sacking Grayson the easy choice.

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Reptilia said:
I’m genuinely starting to think you are Simon Grayson.
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He is!

richest said:
Is that you Grayson? go away.
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Yes. I think it is.

Clive said:
You'll be telling us next that his penis accidentally fell out of his trousers and into the vagina of a lass from the ticket office at Elland Road.

By the way, I'd love for someone to work out Grayson's Championship stats, his general stats are always distorted by his League 1 record.
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I have nothing much against Grayson but he made a huge mistake sticking with 2 up front after the Leeds game. We were overran, out numbered and bullied in midfield that day and Grayson should have tightened things up to help us get a grip of games and to protect our back four.

Coleman has 3 clean sheets from 5 games. Grayson none from about 15, ridiculous to be honest.
 
123456789 said:
And this has exactly what to do with football?

It's hardly a crime.



Not that they wouldn't play for Grayson, but rather than being too good for this division many Sunderland players are not good enough for it.

Best of luck to Coleman but staying up would be a fine achievement.




Grayson's three full seasons in the championship.

Pld W D L F A Pts
46 19 15 12 81 70 +11 72 Leeds United 10/11

46 15 17 14 45 45 0 62 Preston 15/16

46 16 14 16 64 63 +1 62 Preston 16/17


Left Leeds in 11/12 in 10th place

Left Huddersfield in 12/13 in 16th place

And of course left Sunderland in a disappointing 24th place in 17/18
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You can quote all of Grayson's stats at other clubs it means exactly bugger all to safc.

The relevant facts are, no home wins, one win in 19 games, no clean sheets in any game

Compared to Coleman with the same players, 2 wins, 1 draw, 2 defeats, three, THREE CLEAN SHEATS, and A HOME WIN.

Compare those stats over a season

Grayson would have achieved 3 wins and about 24 points

Coleman using his stats would achieve 63 points

NOW EITHER STOP DEFENDING THE INDEFENSIBLE AND NEVER RETURN @BAGPUUSS OR THIS CURRENT NAME, OR SIGN BACK IN AND TALK SOMETHING APPROACHING SENSE.

COMPRENDE
 
123456789 said:
The opinion here seems to be that Sunderland's poor start to the season was simply down to Grayson

Grayson made a number of mistakes here but his record as outlined below stands up to comparison with any manager outside the Premier League.

Grayson would have turned Sunderland around eventually (as Coleman will if given time) if he had been given a couple of transfer windows and more time to work with the squad.

Fact is Grayson made mistakes and should have been doing better but the fact also is that he was an easy fall guy for a squad of players not cut out for football at this level.

Coleman will turn it around if given time but be certain that very few of the current squad will be involved next season.

Grayson was brought in to rebuild but only given until the end of October = not enough time.

Look at Bristol City 3 wins in 28 last season under Johnson; didn't sack him and look where they are now.

Grayson began his coaching career at Blackpool where he enjoyed a six-year stint, first as a player then as manager, during which he guided the Seasiders to their highest league place for over 40 years.

He ended his career at Blackpool and after a successful spell as player-caretaker manager he was handed the managerial job on a permanent basis in the summer of 2006. Grayson then led Blackpool to the League One play-off final in 2007 and after gaining promotion he secured their Championship status.

After taking charge of Leeds in December 2008, Grayson led the side to a fourth place finish in League One. Leeds won their remaining 11 home games that season, matching a 40-year-old record from the Don Revie era.

In his first full season, he guided the club back to the Championship with a second place finish in League One, securing automatic promotion on the final day of the season with a 2-1 win over Bristol Rovers. Season 2009/10 also saw a memorable victory for Leeds as they beat Manchester United in The FA Cup, resulting in their first win at Old Trafford since 1981.

Leeds would then enjoy a successful return to the Championship, as Grayson's men were in play-off contention throughout the 2010/11 campaign. Grayson was also awarded the manager of the month award for December.

The club parted company with Simon in February 2012, despite Leeds being just 3 points off the play-offs. On leaving Elland Road, Grayson had a remarkable win percentage record of 49.7%.

He later enjoyed an instant impact with Huddersfield Town as he guided the club to the Championship for the first time in 11 years, after they defeated Sheffield United in the play-off final. He remained with the club until January 2013.

In his first full season in charge at Preston, Grayson guided the Club to a 5th place finish in League One before winning promotion in 2014/15. Grayson guided Preston to two consecutive 11th place finishes in the championship in 15/16 and 16/17.

Grayson enjoyed a 17-year playing career that saw him make over 500 career appearances.

He started his career at Elland Road before moving to Leicester.

After Leicester City he enjoyed successful stints with Aston Villa and Blackburn Rovers.
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Whee's this bus seat sniffer?
 
123456789 said:
The opinion here seems to be that Sunderland's poor start to the season was simply down to Grayson

Grayson made a number of mistakes here but his record as outlined below stands up to comparison with any manager outside the Premier League.

Grayson would have turned Sunderland around eventually (as Coleman will if given time) if he had been given a couple of transfer windows and more time to work with the squad.

Fact is Grayson made mistakes and should have been doing better but the fact also is that he was an easy fall guy for a squad of players not cut out for football at this level.

Coleman will turn it around if given time but be certain that very few of the current squad will be involved next season.

Grayson was brought in to rebuild but only given until the end of October = not enough time.

Look at Bristol City 3 wins in 28 last season under Johnson; didn't sack him and look where they are now.

Grayson began his coaching career at Blackpool where he enjoyed a six-year stint, first as a player then as manager, during which he guided the Seasiders to their highest league place for over 40 years.

He ended his career at Blackpool and after a successful spell as player-caretaker manager he was handed the managerial job on a permanent basis in the summer of 2006. Grayson then led Blackpool to the League One play-off final in 2007 and after gaining promotion he secured their Championship status.

After taking charge of Leeds in December 2008, Grayson led the side to a fourth place finish in League One. Leeds won their remaining 11 home games that season, matching a 40-year-old record from the Don Revie era.

In his first full season, he guided the club back to the Championship with a second place finish in League One, securing automatic promotion on the final day of the season with a 2-1 win over Bristol Rovers. Season 2009/10 also saw a memorable victory for Leeds as they beat Manchester United in The FA Cup, resulting in their first win at Old Trafford since 1981.

Leeds would then enjoy a successful return to the Championship, as Grayson's men were in play-off contention throughout the 2010/11 campaign. Grayson was also awarded the manager of the month award for December.

The club parted company with Simon in February 2012, despite Leeds being just 3 points off the play-offs. On leaving Elland Road, Grayson had a remarkable win percentage record of 49.7%.

He later enjoyed an instant impact with Huddersfield Town as he guided the club to the Championship for the first time in 11 years, after they defeated Sheffield United in the play-off final. He remained with the club until January 2013.

In his first full season in charge at Preston, Grayson guided the Club to a 5th place finish in League One before winning promotion in 2014/15. Grayson guided Preston to two consecutive 11th place finishes in the championship in 15/16 and 16/17.

Grayson enjoyed a 17-year playing career that saw him make over 500 career appearances.

He started his career at Elland Road before moving to Leicester.

After Leicester City he enjoyed successful stints with Aston Villa and Blackburn Rovers.
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You wasted your time. Grayson was shite as results prove.
 
123456789 said:
And this has exactly what to do with football?

It's hardly a crime.



Not that they wouldn't play for Grayson, but rather than being too good for this division many Sunderland players are not good enough for it.

Best of luck to Coleman but staying up would be a fine achievement.




Grayson's three full seasons in the championship.

Pld W D L F A Pts
46 19 15 12 81 70 +11 72 Leeds United 10/11

46 15 17 14 45 45 0 62 Preston 15/16

46 16 14 16 64 63 +1 62 Preston 16/17


Left Leeds in 11/12 in 10th place

Left Huddersfield in 12/13 in 16th place

And of course left Sunderland in a disappointing 24th place in 17/18
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The stats you've included to make him look good show a 36% win ratio, his overall Championship win ratio is around 32%.

That's not the record of a Championship expert.
 
As the original post

Coleman will be doing very very well to stay up.

Sunderland do not have the players to do well in the championship.

They are not physically or mentally ready for football at this level.
 
123456789 said:
As the original post

Coleman will be doing very very well to stay up.

Sunderland do not have the players to do well in the championship.

They are not physically or mentally ready for football at this level.[/QUOTE


It's we are not physically or mentally ready for football at this level.
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They meaning the players on the pitch namely Kone, O'Shea, NDong, Gibson, Cattermole
 
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