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Sacking Grayson the easy choice.

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123456789 said:
The opinion here seems to be that Sunderland's poor start to the season was simply down to Grayson

Grayson made a number of mistakes here but his record as outlined below stands up to comparison with any manager outside the Premier League.

Grayson would have turned Sunderland around eventually (as Coleman will if given time) if he had been given a couple of transfer windows and more time to work with the squad.

Fact is Grayson made mistakes and should have been doing better but the fact also is that he was an easy fall guy for a squad of players not cut out for football at this level.

Coleman will turn it around if given time but be certain that very few of the current squad will be involved next season.

Grayson was brought in to rebuild but only given until the end of October = not enough time.

Look at Bristol City 3 wins in 28 last season under Johnson; didn't sack him and look where they are now.

Grayson began his coaching career at Blackpool where he enjoyed a six-year stint, first as a player then as manager, during which he guided the Seasiders to their highest league place for over 40 years.

He ended his career at Blackpool and after a successful spell as player-caretaker manager he was handed the managerial job on a permanent basis in the summer of 2006. Grayson then led Blackpool to the League One play-off final in 2007 and after gaining promotion he secured their Championship status.

After taking charge of Leeds in December 2008, Grayson led the side to a fourth place finish in League One. Leeds won their remaining 11 home games that season, matching a 40-year-old record from the Don Revie era.

In his first full season, he guided the club back to the Championship with a second place finish in League One, securing automatic promotion on the final day of the season with a 2-1 win over Bristol Rovers. Season 2009/10 also saw a memorable victory for Leeds as they beat Manchester United in The FA Cup, resulting in their first win at Old Trafford since 1981.

Leeds would then enjoy a successful return to the Championship, as Grayson's men were in play-off contention throughout the 2010/11 campaign. Grayson was also awarded the manager of the month award for December.

The club parted company with Simon in February 2012, despite Leeds being just 3 points off the play-offs. On leaving Elland Road, Grayson had a remarkable win percentage record of 49.7%.

He later enjoyed an instant impact with Huddersfield Town as he guided the club to the Championship for the first time in 11 years, after they defeated Sheffield United in the play-off final. He remained with the club until January 2013.

In his first full season in charge at Preston, Grayson guided the Club to a 5th place finish in League One before winning promotion in 2014/15. Grayson guided Preston to two consecutive 11th place finishes in the championship in 15/16 and 16/17.

Grayson enjoyed a 17-year playing career that saw him make over 500 career appearances.

He started his career at Elland Road before moving to Leicester.

After Leicester City he enjoyed successful stints with Aston Villa and Blackburn Rovers.
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This reads as a magnificent treatise of Grayson wonderment.

But honestly, he was absolutely fuking chod here.

As bad as moyes in his uselessness and as a purveyor of anti-motivation.

There was more than enough writing on the wall for the trap door to be pulled out from under him.

He was not capable for the job here.
 
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Grayson did good things with the sqauad.

He has proved though that he's not a big club manager.

Simple as that.

His time here in my opinion was successfull because of what was required at the time. Had it not been him I fear to think what our squad might now resemble.

Coleman seems to be exactly the right man at the right time.
 
123456789 said:
The opinion here seems to be that Sunderland's poor start to the season was simply down to Grayson

Grayson made a number of mistakes here but his record as outlined below stands up to comparison with any manager outside the Premier League.

Grayson would have turned Sunderland around eventually (as Coleman will if given time) if he had been given a couple of transfer windows and more time to work with the squad.

Fact is Grayson made mistakes and should have been doing better but the fact also is that he was an easy fall guy for a squad of players not cut out for football at this level.

Coleman will turn it around if given time but be certain that very few of the current squad will be involved next season.

Grayson was brought in to rebuild but only given until the end of October = not enough time.

Look at Bristol City 3 wins in 28 last season under Johnson; didn't sack him and look where they are now.

Grayson began his coaching career at Blackpool where he enjoyed a six-year stint, first as a player then as manager, during which he guided the Seasiders to their highest league place for over 40 years.

He ended his career at Blackpool and after a successful spell as player-caretaker manager he was handed the managerial job on a permanent basis in the summer of 2006. Grayson then led Blackpool to the League One play-off final in 2007 and after gaining promotion he secured their Championship status.

After taking charge of Leeds in December 2008, Grayson led the side to a fourth place finish in League One. Leeds won their remaining 11 home games that season, matching a 40-year-old record from the Don Revie era.

In his first full season, he guided the club back to the Championship with a second place finish in League One, securing automatic promotion on the final day of the season with a 2-1 win over Bristol Rovers. Season 2009/10 also saw a memorable victory for Leeds as they beat Manchester United in The FA Cup, resulting in their first win at Old Trafford since 1981.

Leeds would then enjoy a successful return to the Championship, as Grayson's men were in play-off contention throughout the 2010/11 campaign. Grayson was also awarded the manager of the month award for December.

The club parted company with Simon in February 2012, despite Leeds being just 3 points off the play-offs. On leaving Elland Road, Grayson had a remarkable win percentage record of 49.7%.

He later enjoyed an instant impact with Huddersfield Town as he guided the club to the Championship for the first time in 11 years, after they defeated Sheffield United in the play-off final. He remained with the club until January 2013.

In his first full season in charge at Preston, Grayson guided the Club to a 5th place finish in League One before winning promotion in 2014/15. Grayson guided Preston to two consecutive 11th place finishes in the championship in 15/16 and 16/17.

Grayson enjoyed a 17-year playing career that saw him make over 500 career appearances.

He started his career at Elland Road before moving to Leicester.

After Leicester City he enjoyed successful stints with Aston Villa and Blackburn Rovers.
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Interesting read, but what it says to me is he a top quality 1st Division Manager. He’s not even in Warnocks or McCathy’s league in terms of the championship. Earned a chance at a big club but blew it because he couldn’t manage the size of the problem...it was going to take a special character to sort us out. Hope it’s Coleman but it most certainly was not Grayson.
 
123456789 said:
The opinion here seems to be that Sunderland's poor start to the season was simply down to Grayson

Grayson made a number of mistakes here but his record as outlined below stands up to comparison with any manager outside the Premier League.

Grayson would have turned Sunderland around eventually (as Coleman will if given time) if he had been given a couple of transfer windows and more time to work with the squad.

Fact is Grayson made mistakes and should have been doing better but the fact also is that he was an easy fall guy for a squad of players not cut out for football at this level.

Coleman will turn it around if given time but be certain that very few of the current squad will be involved next season.

Grayson was brought in to rebuild but only given until the end of October = not enough time.

Look at Bristol City 3 wins in 28 last season under Johnson; didn't sack him and look where they are now.

Grayson began his coaching career at Blackpool where he enjoyed a six-year stint, first as a player then as manager, during which he guided the Seasiders to their highest league place for over 40 years.

He ended his career at Blackpool and after a successful spell as player-caretaker manager he was handed the managerial job on a permanent basis in the summer of 2006. Grayson then led Blackpool to the League One play-off final in 2007 and after gaining promotion he secured their Championship status.

After taking charge of Leeds in December 2008, Grayson led the side to a fourth place finish in League One. Leeds won their remaining 11 home games that season, matching a 40-year-old record from the Don Revie era.

In his first full season, he guided the club back to the Championship with a second place finish in League One, securing automatic promotion on the final day of the season with a 2-1 win over Bristol Rovers. Season 2009/10 also saw a memorable victory for Leeds as they beat Manchester United in The FA Cup, resulting in their first win at Old Trafford since 1981.

Leeds would then enjoy a successful return to the Championship, as Grayson's men were in play-off contention throughout the 2010/11 campaign. Grayson was also awarded the manager of the month award for December.

The club parted company with Simon in February 2012, despite Leeds being just 3 points off the play-offs. On leaving Elland Road, Grayson had a remarkable win percentage record of 49.7%.

He later enjoyed an instant impact with Huddersfield Town as he guided the club to the Championship for the first time in 11 years, after they defeated Sheffield United in the play-off final. He remained with the club until January 2013.

In his first full season in charge at Preston, Grayson guided the Club to a 5th place finish in League One before winning promotion in 2014/15. Grayson guided Preston to two consecutive 11th place finishes in the championship in 15/16 and 16/17.

Grayson enjoyed a 17-year playing career that saw him make over 500 career appearances.

He started his career at Elland Road before moving to Leicester.

After Leicester City he enjoyed successful stints with Aston Villa and Blackburn Rovers.
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You'll be telling us next that his penis accidentally fell out of his trousers and into the vagina of a lass from the ticket office at Elland Road.

By the way, I'd love for someone to work out Grayson's Championship stats, his general stats are always distorted by his League 1 record.
 
123456789 said:
The opinion here seems to be that Sunderland's poor start to the season was simply down to Grayson

Grayson made a number of mistakes here but his record as outlined below stands up to comparison with any manager outside the Premier League.

Grayson would have turned Sunderland around eventually (as Coleman will if given time) if he had been given a couple of transfer windows and more time to work with the squad.

Fact is Grayson made mistakes and should have been doing better but the fact also is that he was an easy fall guy for a squad of players not cut out for football at this level.

Coleman will turn it around if given time but be certain that very few of the current squad will be involved next season.

Grayson was brought in to rebuild but only given until the end of October = not enough time.

Look at Bristol City 3 wins in 28 last season under Johnson; didn't sack him and look where they are now.

Grayson began his coaching career at Blackpool where he enjoyed a six-year stint, first as a player then as manager, during which he guided the Seasiders to their highest league place for over 40 years.

He ended his career at Blackpool and after a successful spell as player-caretaker manager he was handed the managerial job on a permanent basis in the summer of 2006. Grayson then led Blackpool to the League One play-off final in 2007 and after gaining promotion he secured their Championship status.

After taking charge of Leeds in December 2008, Grayson led the side to a fourth place finish in League One. Leeds won their remaining 11 home games that season, matching a 40-year-old record from the Don Revie era.

In his first full season, he guided the club back to the Championship with a second place finish in League One, securing automatic promotion on the final day of the season with a 2-1 win over Bristol Rovers. Season 2009/10 also saw a memorable victory for Leeds as they beat Manchester United in The FA Cup, resulting in their first win at Old Trafford since 1981.

Leeds would then enjoy a successful return to the Championship, as Grayson's men were in play-off contention throughout the 2010/11 campaign. Grayson was also awarded the manager of the month award for December.

The club parted company with Simon in February 2012, despite Leeds being just 3 points off the play-offs. On leaving Elland Road, Grayson had a remarkable win percentage record of 49.7%.

He later enjoyed an instant impact with Huddersfield Town as he guided the club to the Championship for the first time in 11 years, after they defeated Sheffield United in the play-off final. He remained with the club until January 2013.

In his first full season in charge at Preston, Grayson guided the Club to a 5th place finish in League One before winning promotion in 2014/15. Grayson guided Preston to two consecutive 11th place finishes in the championship in 15/16 and 16/17.

Grayson enjoyed a 17-year playing career that saw him make over 500 career appearances.

He started his career at Elland Road before moving to Leicester.

After Leicester City he enjoyed successful stints with Aston Villa and Blackburn Rovers.
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Rather a lot of text, just to get a bite there, mate. Give my best regards to all at Cherry Knowles for Chrimbo;)
 
123456789 said:
The opinion here seems to be that Sunderland's poor start to the season was simply down to Grayson

Grayson made a number of mistakes here but his record as outlined below stands up to comparison with any manager outside the Premier League.

Grayson would have turned Sunderland around eventually (as Coleman will if given time) if he had been given a couple of transfer windows and more time to work with the squad.

Fact is Grayson made mistakes and should have been doing better but the fact also is that he was an easy fall guy for a squad of players not cut out for football at this level.

Coleman will turn it around if given time but be certain that very few of the current squad will be involved next season.

Grayson was brought in to rebuild but only given until the end of October = not enough time.

Look at Bristol City 3 wins in 28 last season under Johnson; didn't sack him and look where they are now.

Grayson began his coaching career at Blackpool where he enjoyed a six-year stint, first as a player then as manager, during which he guided the Seasiders to their highest league place for over 40 years.

He ended his career at Blackpool and after a successful spell as player-caretaker manager he was handed the managerial job on a permanent basis in the summer of 2006. Grayson then led Blackpool to the League One play-off final in 2007 and after gaining promotion he secured their Championship status.

After taking charge of Leeds in December 2008, Grayson led the side to a fourth place finish in League One. Leeds won their remaining 11 home games that season, matching a 40-year-old record from the Don Revie era.

In his first full season, he guided the club back to the Championship with a second place finish in League One, securing automatic promotion on the final day of the season with a 2-1 win over Bristol Rovers. Season 2009/10 also saw a memorable victory for Leeds as they beat Manchester United in The FA Cup, resulting in their first win at Old Trafford since 1981.

Leeds would then enjoy a successful return to the Championship, as Grayson's men were in play-off contention throughout the 2010/11 campaign. Grayson was also awarded the manager of the month award for December.

The club parted company with Simon in February 2012, despite Leeds being just 3 points off the play-offs. On leaving Elland Road, Grayson had a remarkable win percentage record of 49.7%.

He later enjoyed an instant impact with Huddersfield Town as he guided the club to the Championship for the first time in 11 years, after they defeated Sheffield United in the play-off final. He remained with the club until January 2013.

In his first full season in charge at Preston, Grayson guided the Club to a 5th place finish in League One before winning promotion in 2014/15. Grayson guided Preston to two consecutive 11th place finishes in the championship in 15/16 and 16/17.

Grayson enjoyed a 17-year playing career that saw him make over 500 career appearances.

He started his career at Elland Road before moving to Leicester.

After Leicester City he enjoyed successful stints with Aston Villa and Blackburn Rovers.
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Why have you ignored his record at our club?

123456789 said:
3 1 defeat at home to Reading

1 0 win at home to Fulham

Let's see where they finish.

20th.
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They?

Fuck off mag

Ignore
 
Why would we give him multiple transfer windows when in his first one his permanent signings were Steele, Vaughan, McGeady and McManaman.

At least half of those are not good enough, maybe three quarters depending on how McManaman turns out. And none are young enough that theyre going to get better with time nd experience.
 
Top trolling by the OP. The difference between this squad with Grayson and Coleman is night and day. Whilst Grayson may have got things going with another two transfer windows, the second of those would have been spent in league 1. Tactics, motivation, organisation were all horrendous. It’s clear that spending money on sacking Grayson and bringing in Coleman was better than giving that money to grayson in to spend in January. We’re miles better off without him.
 
123456789 said:
The opinion here seems to be that Sunderland's poor start to the season was simply down to Grayson

Grayson made a number of mistakes here but his record as outlined below stands up to comparison with any manager outside the Premier League.

Grayson would have turned Sunderland around eventually (as Coleman will if given time) if he had been given a couple of transfer windows and more time to work with the squad.

Fact is Grayson made mistakes and should have been doing better but the fact also is that he was an easy fall guy for a squad of players not cut out for football at this level.

Coleman will turn it around if given time but be certain that very few of the current squad will be involved next season.

Grayson was brought in to rebuild but only given until the end of October = not enough time.

Look at Bristol City 3 wins in 28 last season under Johnson; didn't sack him and look where they are now.

Grayson began his coaching career at Blackpool where he enjoyed a six-year stint, first as a player then as manager, during which he guided the Seasiders to their highest league place for over 40 years.

He ended his career at Blackpool and after a successful spell as player-caretaker manager he was handed the managerial job on a permanent basis in the summer of 2006. Grayson then led Blackpool to the League One play-off final in 2007 and after gaining promotion he secured their Championship status.

After taking charge of Leeds in December 2008, Grayson led the side to a fourth place finish in League One. Leeds won their remaining 11 home games that season, matching a 40-year-old record from the Don Revie era.

In his first full season, he guided the club back to the Championship with a second place finish in League One, securing automatic promotion on the final day of the season with a 2-1 win over Bristol Rovers. Season 2009/10 also saw a memorable victory for Leeds as they beat Manchester United in The FA Cup, resulting in their first win at Old Trafford since 1981.

Leeds would then enjoy a successful return to the Championship, as Grayson's men were in play-off contention throughout the 2010/11 campaign. Grayson was also awarded the manager of the month award for December.

The club parted company with Simon in February 2012, despite Leeds being just 3 points off the play-offs. On leaving Elland Road, Grayson had a remarkable win percentage record of 49.7%.

He later enjoyed an instant impact with Huddersfield Town as he guided the club to the Championship for the first time in 11 years, after they defeated Sheffield United in the play-off final. He remained with the club until January 2013.

In his first full season in charge at Preston, Grayson guided the Club to a 5th place finish in League One before winning promotion in 2014/15. Grayson guided Preston to two consecutive 11th place finishes in the championship in 15/16 and 16/17.

Grayson enjoyed a 17-year playing career that saw him make over 500 career appearances.

He started his career at Elland Road before moving to Leicester.

After Leicester City he enjoyed successful stints with Aston Villa and Blackburn Rovers.
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Is that you Grayson? go away.
 
Grayson is a good manager. History proves it.
However he is good at getting the best out of low budget, small wage bill squads. Thats why he was brought in.
However the likes of Catts, Rodwell, Kone, O Shea etc think they're too good for this league and would never play for Grayson and so he had to go, end of.
We were shite, he was out of his depth, but good luck to the fella
 
Clive said:
You'll be telling us next that his penis accidentally fell out of his trousers and into the vagina of a lass from the ticket office at Elland Road.

By the way, I'd love for someone to work out Grayson's Championship stats, his general stats are always distorted by his League 1 record.
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And this has exactly what to do with football?

It's hardly a crime.

gringo purves said:
Grayson is a good manager. History proves it.
However he is good at getting the best out of low budget, small wage bill squads. Thats why he was brought in.
However the likes of Catts, Rodwell, Kone, O Shea etc think they're too good for this league and would never play for Grayson and so he had to go, end of.
We were shite, he was out of his depth, but good luck to the fella
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Not that they wouldn't play for Grayson, but rather than being too good for this division many Sunderland players are not good enough for it.

Best of luck to Coleman but staying up would be a fine achievement.

Clive said:
You'll be telling us next that his penis accidentally fell out of his trousers and into the vagina of a lass from the ticket office at Elland Road.

By the way, I'd love for someone to work out Grayson's Championship stats, his general stats are always distorted by his League 1 record.
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Grayson's three full seasons in the championship.

Pld W D L F A Pts
46 19 15 12 81 70 +11 72 Leeds United 10/11

46 15 17 14 45 45 0 62 Preston 15/16

46 16 14 16 64 63 +1 62 Preston 16/17


Left Leeds in 11/12 in 10th place

Left Huddersfield in 12/13 in 16th place

And of course left Sunderland in a disappointing 24th place in 17/18
 
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123456789 said:
And this has exactly what to do with football?

It's hardly a crime.



Not that they wouldn't play for Grayson, but rather than being too good for this division many Sunderland players are not good enough for it.

Best of luck to Coleman but staying up would be a fine achievement.




Grayson's three full seasons in the championship.

Pld W D L F A Pts
46 19 15 12 81 70 +11 72 Leeds United 10/11

46 15 17 14 45 45 0 62 Preston 15/16

46 16 14 16 64 63 +1 62 Preston 16/17


Left Leeds in 11/12 in 10th place

Left Huddersfield in 12/13 in 16th place

And of course left Sunderland in a disappointing 24th place in 17/18
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Nuff said.
 
123456789 said:
The opinion here seems to be that Sunderland's poor start to the season was simply down to Grayson

Grayson made a number of mistakes here but his record as outlined below stands up to comparison with any manager outside the Premier League.

Grayson would have turned Sunderland around eventually (as Coleman will if given time) if he had been given a couple of transfer windows and more time to work with the squad.

Fact is Grayson made mistakes and should have been doing better but the fact also is that he was an easy fall guy for a squad of players not cut out for football at this level.

Coleman will turn it around if given time but be certain that very few of the current squad will be involved next season.

Grayson was brought in to rebuild but only given until the end of October = not enough time.

Look at Bristol City 3 wins in 28 last season under Johnson; didn't sack him and look where they are now.

Grayson began his coaching career at Blackpool where he enjoyed a six-year stint, first as a player then as manager, during which he guided the Seasiders to their highest league place for over 40 years.

He ended his career at Blackpool and after a successful spell as player-caretaker manager he was handed the managerial job on a permanent basis in the summer of 2006. Grayson then led Blackpool to the League One play-off final in 2007 and after gaining promotion he secured their Championship status.

After taking charge of Leeds in December 2008, Grayson led the side to a fourth place finish in League One. Leeds won their remaining 11 home games that season, matching a 40-year-old record from the Don Revie era.

In his first full season, he guided the club back to the Championship with a second place finish in League One, securing automatic promotion on the final day of the season with a 2-1 win over Bristol Rovers. Season 2009/10 also saw a memorable victory for Leeds as they beat Manchester United in The FA Cup, resulting in their first win at Old Trafford since 1981.

Leeds would then enjoy a successful return to the Championship, as Grayson's men were in play-off contention throughout the 2010/11 campaign. Grayson was also awarded the manager of the month award for December.

The club parted company with Simon in February 2012, despite Leeds being just 3 points off the play-offs. On leaving Elland Road, Grayson had a remarkable win percentage record of 49.7%.

He later enjoyed an instant impact with Huddersfield Town as he guided the club to the Championship for the first time in 11 years, after they defeated Sheffield United in the play-off final. He remained with the club until January 2013.

In his first full season in charge at Preston, Grayson guided the Club to a 5th place finish in League One before winning promotion in 2014/15. Grayson guided Preston to two consecutive 11th place finishes in the championship in 15/16 and 16/17.

Grayson enjoyed a 17-year playing career that saw him make over 500 career appearances.

He started his career at Elland Road before moving to Leicester.

After Leicester City he enjoyed successful stints with Aston Villa and Blackburn Rovers.
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Hello Mrs Grayson. Pics?
 
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