The Egyptian Pyramids

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HellsBells said:
This. They unearthed a papyrus written by one of the foremen recently. Channel 4 documentary on it.
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First, I think the pyramids were built by the ancient Egyptians and not aliens. However the documentary and the hype surrounding it claimed that the mystery of how they were built has been solved.
I watched that documentary. It was littered with faults.
For example, the experiment where a group of men cut a block of limestone and transported it eight miles along the Nile on a wooden boat was wrong on a few levels.
The block they used weighed about 1 -2 tons judging by the size of it. The casing stones of the Great Pyramid (and this was meant to simulate a casing stone being transported) weighed between 10 - 20 tons each. All 36500 of them.
The simulated journey with just one stone which was a tenth of the size of the real casing stones, took all day and almost sank the boat.
The waterways supposedly cut into the Giza bedrock to facilitate these boat journeys would only have been flooded by the Nile for a few months every year. Yet 36500 massive stones were quarried, loaded onto boats and transported in the manner
described in the space of just a few years?

The documentary also failed to speculate on how the numerous 60-ton granite slabs used in the construction of the upper internal chamber of the Great Pyramid were quarried and transported 500 miles to Giza. So definitely not a case of mystery solved. Just more questions than ever for me.
 
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That building consists of over 2 million blocks of stone. Each block would have had to have been quarried, cut, shaped, transported and fitted every 2 and a half minutes, 12 hours a day, 365 days a year, for 20 years. Using copper chisels. Sounds reasonable.
 
I've visited the Pyramids at Giza, they certainly are impressive.
I have two overriding memories.
A copper on a camel offered to take a photo of me and the Mrs so we gave him the camera and posed and he did take our photo but would not give the camera back till we gave him money.
The poverty around the Pyramids, made me think once upon a time this was the greatest civilisation on earth what went wrong ?
 
WhoDrankAllTheBovril said:
First, I think the pyramids were built by the ancient Egyptians and not aliens. However the documentary and the hype surrounding it claimed that the mystery of how they were built has been solved.
I watched that documentary. It was littered with faults.
For example, the experiment where a group of men cut a block of limestone and transported it eight miles along the Nile on a wooden boat was wrong on a few levels.
The block they used weighed about 1 -2 tons judging by the size of it. The casing stones of the Great Pyramid (and this was meant to simulate a casing stone being transported) weighed between 10 - 20 tons each. All 36500 of them.
The simulated journey with just one stone which was a tenth of the size of the real casing stones, took all day and almost sank the boat.
The waterways supposedly cut into the Giza bedrock to facilitate these boat journeys would only have been flooded by the Nile for a few months every year. Yet 36500 massive stones were quarried, loaded onto boats and transported in the manner
described in the space of just a few years?

The documentary also failed to speculate on how the numerous 60-ton granite slabs used in the construction of the upper internal chamber of the Great Pyramid were quarried and transported 500 miles to Giza. So definitely not a case of mystery solved. Just more questions than ever for me.
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Spot on, I was asking the same questions.
 
theinediblebulk said:
That building consists of over 2 million blocks of stone. Each block would have had to have been quarried, cut, shaped, transported and fitted every 2 and a half minutes, 12 hours a day, 365 days a year, for 20 years. Using copper chisels. Sounds reasonable.
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So you think Aliens made them?
 
I've watched the documentary posted by the OP and I've also read opposing theories.

It would be great to spend time looking at the construction of these monuments and try to piece together how they were built. Then there will always he academics who have sufficient credence to push a theory which isn't likely, but gets attention.
 
Dagzd1973 said:
So you think Aliens made them?
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Nah, no need for aliens. But there is a need for technology to get something like that built imo. 70 ton granite blocks perfectly smooth and perfectly straight with perfect 90 degree corners. Not doing that with a copper chisel like. Of all building's built on a North South axis, it's the most accurate. better than modern day observatories. It's less than 1 10th of an inch off being perfectly flat (and that's because the bedrock has moved, not because the building has slipped.). And even before you get to the pyramid itself, the bedrock was carved out perfectly flat and then was slabbed. With slabs weighing about a ton each. We couldn't actually measure how accurate it was until we developed the laser. That is mental. We need a laser to measure something accurately that was made with a plumb line? And it has eight sides, not four and this can only be seen at the equinox with how the shadows fall. Yet I've always been puzzled the most by why it was built without a door.
 
T_Bone said:
I've visited the Pyramids at Giza, they certainly are impressive.
The poverty around the Pyramids, made me think once upon a time this was the greatest civilisation on earth what went wrong ?
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I get like that when driving through Ryhope.
 
theinediblebulk said:
That building consists of over 2 million blocks of stone. Each block would have had to have been quarried, cut, shaped, transported and fitted every 2 and a half minutes, 12 hours a day, 365 days a year, for 20 years. Using copper chisels. Sounds reasonable.
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Aye but they didn't have Eastenders or Angry Birds to distract them.
 
theinediblebulk said:
Nah, no need for aliens. But there is a need for technology to get something like that built imo. 70 ton granite blocks perfectly smooth and perfectly straight with perfect 90 degree corners. Not doing that with a copper chisel like. Of all building's built on a North South axis, it's the most accurate. better than modern day observatories. It's less than 1 10th of an inch off being perfectly flat (and that's because the bedrock has moved, not because the building has slipped.). And even before you get to the pyramid itself, the bedrock was carved out perfectly flat and then was slabbed. With slabs weighing about a ton each. We couldn't actually measure how accurate it was until we developed the laser. That is mental. We need a laser to measure something accurately that was made with a plumb line? And it has eight sides, not four and this can only be seen at the equinox with how the shadows fall. Yet I've always been puzzled the most by why it was built without a door.
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I agree it's a technological marvel. I just don't like the ancient alien hypothesis.

People often make the mistake of thinking that people 3000 years ago were idiot hunter-gatherers who couldn't do shit. The Romans were lifting 300-ton blocks all over the world 1000 years later. The Sumerians had figured out Pythagoras and complex math 1000 years earlier. Architects existed. Mathematicians existed.

Building the Pyramids wasn't impossible, it was just very very hard.
 
Dagzd1973 said:
I agree it's a technological marvel. I just don't like the ancient alien hypothesis.

People often make the mistake of thinking that people 3000 years ago were idiot hunter-gatherers who couldn't do shit. The Romans were lifting 300-ton blocks all over the world 1000 years later. The Sumerians had figured out Pythagoras and complex math 1000 years earlier. Architects existed. Mathematicians existed.

Building the Pyramids wasn't impossible, it was just very very hard.
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It's maths.
 
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