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Spartan
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Are you sure marra ? thought footballing debtors were golden ?
if we go bust I think Rodders and Catts inherit the stadium !
molthemackem
Striker
They are an employeee of the Club..Should an Administrator wish to terminate staff contracts, who I believe I'm right in saying are in effect debtors of the club, while attempting to sell the Club as a going concern may terminate staff contracts with immediate effect in order to protect the business for any potential future sale. Its a few years since I was involved in a couple of administrations but those rules seem to still be the order of the day.
riffraff
Striker
If the ref had been man enough to send Utds Serb centre half of at Wembley in the 17th minute which even Ferguson admitted should've happened Villa would've probably won the LC and his time there would've been viewed differently. He'd been booked 30 secs earlier and the ref bottled it. It was about 20 yes from me and I've nivver seen so many relieved faces on the pitch as the Utd players were once they realised he wasn't getting a second yeller.
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TaylorBoosh
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I never said we were, I don’t know if we are or not, I’m just going off rumours. It’s just a difference of opinion. I agree with the majority here that Short can not be defended, he’s taking this club one way and it certainly isn’t up.
Coeus
Striker
That maybe the case, fine margins and all that but ultimately he walked out on them days from the start of the season (I think?) on a squad that was bloated with overpaid players.
Was his own worst enemy here, signing two very questionable characters for big money that didn't fit his system and the less said about Graham the better.
I've seen some negative football in my time, but his was far beyond anything I have seen before or since.
peil
Striker
Exactly what happened with Rangers - though in that case an attempt was made to TUPE employees to the new club and most of them said no thanks and pissed off
riffraff
Striker
Oh I agree he was awful here. I was ower the moon when we got him but the Graham signing soon had alarm bells ringing.
molthemackem
Striker
I think Tupe would apply to the remaining staff if the business is sold wholesale ,lock stock and barrel.. in this hypothetical scenario the administrator could determine that they only need 20 or 30 personnel were required so any numbers over that could be issued with their notice with immediate effect in order to keep the business running for a few weeks to see if a buyer came in. As I say ,its a few years since I was last involved in this type of work.
peil
Striker
Rings a bell actually, questions were asked in that case when players were kept on into the close season, indeed I recall at least one signing in the admin period
Sykes The Pop Man
Midfield
Im not denying he has taken us down or arguing the case for him to stay, just making the point that the Short Out brigade weren't complaining when we were enjoying our longest ever run in the top flight.
He has got us into a lot of debt but administration is highly unlikely, despite the rumours.
molthemackem
Striker
Time will tell.
chriswallace85
Striker
Shut up man... Adam Johnson is one of the very best footballers to turn out for this club in years. Neebody in a million years could have foreseen how his career would come crashing to a halt, let alone Martin O'Neill.
And as for Fletcher, he played his best football here under O'Neill.
radjee gadjee
Striker
So we have spent 10 years in the Premier League during the most lucrative period in TV money being pumped into the game. And what do we have to show for it under Short's tenure ? Not a pot to piss in !!!
Given the money that has been poured into the game from Sky it would be virtually impossible for any well run club to be on the brink of administration with spiralling debts.
Yet somehow, our owner has completely mis managed us to the point that those 10 years will be very quickly forgotten when we are scrambling about in League 1 trying to make ends meet.
The man is an incompetent buffoon who deserves no thanks, praise or credit for anything he has done whilst owner of our club. He is destroying us but by bit every day he remains here !!
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TaylorBoosh
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I hope the rumours are just that, rumours, administration would be a different level of low for us.
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Blond Bombshell
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Has he gone yet?
Grumpy Old Man
Striker
The interesting thing about those Soccerbase figures is that they bear no relationship to the additions to intangible assets in the accounts. The highest totals in any one year were £51.9m in 2010/11 (under Bruce) and £58.6m in 2012/13 (under O'Neill). Total expenditure under Short up to 2015/16 was about £247m; adding on Moyes estimated spend brings it up to about £285m. Getting at actual disposal numbers is harder (it has to be inferred from nbv of intangibles disposed of plus or minus profit or loss on sales), but I'd estimate it at about £110m up to 2015/16.
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Blond Bombshell
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Has he gone yet?
roppa
Striker
Well administration doesn't seem to be an option, rumours still flying about, those who are best placed to know seem to think it is v v unlikely as makes no real business sense. Oh and apparently if it's happening its in the next five hoursish.
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