Benitez Future In Doubt Over Failure to Secure Key Signings

[SAFC Wilks]

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I'll just point out that Newcastle did have a game in hand when Benitez was appointed, a few games later and you's are relegated.

You can quote his honours all you like, he had a realistic chance of staying up and failed. He succeeded last season but was lucky enough to be allowed to spend the funds raised.

 

[keybuk]

Care to post how much he spent to achieve the above?

It doesn't matter how much he spent. Someone on here described him as a failure and then start using the facts word. Not a good idea when facts, real proper facts as opposed to opinions, are easily available.

What I never get is Mags who come on here trying to wind us up saying we're small time etc, but always seem to forget that they're on a Sunderland forum, a Sunderland forum that just so happens to be one of the largest footballing forums in the country.

Technically it is a Sunderland forum, but some days it's ours.

 

[Gaz]

It doesn't matter how much he spent. Someone on here described him as a failure and then start using the facts word. Not a good idea when facts, real proper facts as opposed to opinions, are easily available.

Of course it matters how much he spent. My mate supports Liverpool and goes to every game - he thinks he was ultimately a failure there considering the massive amount of money he spent.

Can he be successful at your lot - maybe, will he have to spend a lot more than anyone else to do it - yes imo

 

[keybuk]

I'll just point out that Newcastle did have a game in hand when Benitez was appointed, a few games later and you's are relegated.

You can quote his honours all you like, he had a realistic chance of staying up and failed. He succeeded last season but was lucky enough to be allowed to spend the funds raised.

Oh FFS, no wonder you lot chop and change managers so frequently. You have no patience. Rome wasn't built in a day. No fucker is perfect. Benitez is a good bet for taking a club forward given time and support. It really isn't an outrageous claim and one that wouldn't cause a stir if he wasn't connected to Newcastle.

Now if I had said he was going to win things then you'd have a point, but I didn't. He's going to make us a lot less shit than we have been recently. That's all.

Of course it matters how much he spent. My mate supports Liverpool and goes to every game - he thinks he was ultimately a failure there considering the massive amount of money he spent.

Can he be successful at your lot - maybe, will he have to spend a lot more than anyone else to do it - yes imo

I think you'll struggle to find anyone who follows us that thinks we have a divine right to trophies. Some of these scousers do, so their disappointment in him is understandable but unreasonable.

 

[SAFC Wilks]

Oh FFS, no wonder you lot chop and change managers so frequently. You have no patience. Rome wasn't built in a day. No fucker is perfect. Benitez is a good bet for taking a club forward given time and support. It really isn't an outrageous claim and one that wouldn't cause a stir if he wasn't connected to Newcastle.

Now if I had said he was going to win things then you'd have a point, but I didn't. He's going to make us a lot less shit than we have been recently. That's all.


I think you'll struggle to find anyone who follows us that thinks we have a divine right to trophies. Some of these scousers do, so their disappointment in him is understandable but unreasonable.

Calm down petal, all I said was he failed to keep you up and succeeded in getting you's promoted when he was allowed to spend funds.

What's wrong about that?

 

[G Force]

It doesn't matter how much he spent. Someone on here described him as a failure and then start using the facts word. Not a good idea when facts, real proper facts as opposed to opinions, are easily available.

Technically it is a Sunderland forum, but some days it's ours.

You're a youngster aren't you. I'll also take a guess that I've been to St James more than you. If so then fair enough, you'll grow up one day.

If the above isn't true, then f***ing hell. What a sad git

 

[Freddie the Greek]

Good afternoon everybody. Draper,as was, here. I hope you are all well.

There seems to be an extra helping of bollocks stories around at the moment. I hope this Rafa story isn't one of them. Despite what some will predictably say on here, compared to some that have managed both clubs he's actually more than reasonably competent. While he didn't avoid relegation, I think he did a good job of getting rid of the players that helped get us relegated, got decent money for some of them, and assembled a capable squad for the championship on the proceeds. It's fairly obvious that unchanged this squad will struggle next season so I hope the half wit that owns the club is persuaded to part with some money.

Draper/keybuk is/was/will always be a hopeless helpless little crusty winnit.

 

[Gaz]

Oh FFS, no wonder you lot chop and change managers so frequently. You have no patience. Rome wasn't built in a day. No fucker is perfect. Benitez is a good bet for taking a club forward given time and support. It really isn't an outrageous claim and one that wouldn't cause a stir if he wasn't connected to Newcastle.

Now if I had said he was going to win things then you'd have a point, but I didn't. He's going to make us a lot less shit than we have been recently. That's all.


I think you'll struggle to find anyone who follows us that thinks we have a divine right to trophies. Some of these scousers do, so their disappointment in him is understandable but unreasonable.

Are you taking the piss . They aren't unreasonable at all - someone who spends that much (significantly more than other teams like Man U) and still can't do it isn't a success no matter how you look at it.

 

[Giddup Sausage!]

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He has done nowt of note for over 10 years man (not counting Chelsea as that was f***ing easy and not much to do with him). And in that time he has managed some of the biggest teams about, most notably Real Madrid.

Only thing he has done of note since Liverpool (who had some f***ing good players, which this clown continually had no clue about with his tinkering) is with Napoli. I'm not too sure if that was his doing or did they already have a good team for him to walk into?

He hasn't lasted 2 seconds in a job since and managed to relegate you lot when you were odds on to stop up above us, till he fucked it all.

 

[keybuk]

He has done nowt of note for over 10 years man (not counting Chelsea as that was f***ing easy and not much to do with him). And in that time he has managed some of the biggest teams about, most notably Real Madrid.

Only thing he has done of note since Liverpool (who had some f***ing good players, which this clown continually had no clue about with his tinkering) is with Napoli. I'm not too sure if that was his doing or did they already have a good team for him to walk into?

He hasn't lasted 2 seconds in a job since and managed to relegate you lot when you were odds on to stop up above us, till he fucked it all.

My Chelsea mate said that like many he didn't want him there, because of the Jose/Rafa spats in the CL, but he conceded that despite all the shit that got fired his way he acted with dignity and did a good job for them in the end. As other chairman have taken him on suggests that they are either imbeciles or perhaps his ability is regarded a bit more favourably than it is on here.

 

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f***ing clown shoe moron.

 

[Zig81]

It doesn't matter how much he spent. Someone on here described him as a failure and then start using the facts word. Not a good idea when facts, real proper facts as opposed to opinions, are easily available.


Technically it is a Sunderland forum, but some days it's ours.

Another "technically", I hope you hang around for a while as you are fuckin hilarious.

Heres a 'real proper fact' or two about your messiah, he had 30 points to play for, 30 points available to save your club from relegation, the job he was brought in to do, the fact is he failed, do you get that? He failed, not anyone's opinion a real proper fact.

 

[theinediblebulk]

I swear on the life of my parents and mine, I have always said that I would never want Benitez at Sunderland, I have been critical of his failings at massive clubs, so would not want him managing on a budget here. This season if Benitez spends less than £30m and keeps Newcastle up safely then I think it is his greatest managerial achievement since Valencia.

I agree with this. Every club he's gone to since then had good players and he could spend the coin. Now he's got Fat Mike holding the wallet and Daryl Murphy.

 

[G Force]

Another "technically", I hope you hang around for a while as you are fuckin hilarious.

Heres a 'real proper fact' or two about your messiah, he had 30 points to play for, 30 points available to save your club from relegation, the job he was brought in to do, the fact is he failed, do you get that? He failed, not anyone's opinion a real proper fact.

And that is after all fact, and not opinion.

End of thread

 

[Deleted member 6830]

It really doesn't matter what went before. Those games have been played. What matters is how much support a manager gets both in terms of time and money.

I'd argue that someone like Benitez is capable of taking a side to a higher than mid table spot in relatively short space of time.

I'd also agree that we will struggle to stay up if he isn't given funds. That would apply at any club.

As for the spending £50 million jibe. What was he supposed to do with the proceeds of selling the shits that got us relegated? Did you expect him to lose half the squad and not replace them FFS? Will you be expecting whoever becomes your manager to not buy new blood or spend the money that your potential new owners could make available. Get a grip on reality man.

I tell you what, Benitez will not emulate Pardew by getting you ##### in to 5th within 2.5 seasons. You know, Pardew the useless fecker that you despised ?

Care to post how much he spent to achieve the above?

Supercoppas, Italian supercoppas ffs man.

 

[keybuk]

Another "technically", I hope you hang around for a while as you are fuckin hilarious.

Heres a 'real proper fact' or two about your messiah, he had 30 points to play for, 30 points available to save your club from relegation, the job he was brought in to do, the fact is he failed, do you get that? He failed, not anyone's opinion a real proper fact.

That one fact doesn't invalidate a career, which is what people on here are pretending has happened to give themselves an explanation for their wanting someone like Nigel Pearson instead of him. It's an irrelevant argument anyway as I doubt he'd touch you lot with a barge pole considering others with inferior CVs have already knocked you back.

 

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The mags

 

[keybuk]

I tell you what, Benitez will not emulate Pardew by getting you ##### in to 5th within 2.5 seasons. You know, Pardew the useless fecker that you despised ?


Supercoppas, Italian supercoppas ffs man.

Woahhh, who said anything about 5th. Top six places are as a rule out of the reach most seasons for any club that doesn't have bottomless pockets.

 

[Zig81]

That one fact doesn't invalidate a career, which is what people on here are pretending has happened to give themselves an explanation for their wanting someone like Nigel Pearson instead of him. It's an irrelevant argument anyway as I doubt he'd touch you lot with a barge pole considering others with inferior CVs have already knocked you back.

Here he is, the gift that keeps giving, you seem to have a habit of contradicting yourself son.

What was it you said, "it doesn't matter what went before"? Now your saying it does matter, glad you've finally realised that people's opinions are actually fact, you'd be better f***ing off and then reinventing yourself again as this log in has shown you're a bit moist behind the lugs, there's a good lad.

 

[Richie K]

Woahhh, who said anything about 5th. Top six places are as a rule out of the reach most seasons for any club that doesn't have bottomless pockets.

You had bottomless pockets 2 seasons ago but Rafa still took you down! Zero points against Norwich, and 2 points from Sunderland and Villa.....should have been sacked after that Villa debacle!