Fat Spanish waiter to be given £70 million

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The Fish said:
You're basing your argument on 1 game when the entire team had a bad day at the office? Yedlin has been, at times, tremendous. He absolutely murdered Barnsley, e.g.

You state these as facts, when in fact they're opinion. And a biased opinion at that. Of course you think our team has been shit. It's in your nature.
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:lol: tremendous.

oh wait, you're being serious? :eek:

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Bear said:
Could see this happening Everton fans are praying it does also wouldn't be surprised to see them sign some f***ing plodder like Lucas Leiva from Liverpool too
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It could happen like as he's Scottish and it's closer to home. But they need to realise that they're a newly promoted club, and that a lot of players don't want to move up to due to the fact that most players, especially foreign players who want to be in London. They'll be paying through the nose in wages for anybody half decent. £70 million won't go far in that league....
 
Brian Griffin said:
£40m tops.

Promoted teams generally do not just thrown £70m+ at a team in their first season.
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In the Mags' case, will they not receive the remaining money due on parachute payments? That would put them in a stronger position than most newly promoted clubs.

£70m transfer budget is still a big gamble mind when they spent over £80m on wages in their last Premier League season.
 
r@mside said:
In the Mags' case, will they not receive the remaining money due on parachute payments? That would put them in a stronger position than most newly promoted clubs.

£70m transfer budget is still a big gamble mind when they spent over £80m on wages in their last Premier League season.
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Even £70m doesn't buy them depth - or replace all the players they'd need to replace.

Anything other than signing players good enough to keep you up in season 1 is idiotic.

Look at how we fared signing N'Dong and Papa for £21m...we'd have been better off spending half of that on a Ryan Shawcross style player and centre midfielder better suited to a scrap.

They could stay up spending half of the £70m on the right players - or go down spending £70m on a 4 players who don't hit the ground running.

Just my opinion of course.
 
r@mside said:
In the Mags' case, will they not receive the remaining money due on parachute payments? That would put them in a stronger position than most newly promoted clubs.

£70m transfer budget is still a big gamble mind when they spent over £80m on wages in their last Premier League season.
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Gets split between the other clubs in the league if the team gets promoted within the parachute payment window
 
SurreyMackem said:
Good players make good teams and for that you need money, which the big teams have, you only need to look at the Prem Table.
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Look at the clubs with the lowest Nett Spend per average position. Leicester is obviously an aberration and will likely revert to a mean, but Stoke through to Southampton are around midtable (Avg pos 10.2) and their average Nett spend per season is only c£16m. Their average Purchased Gross is only c£35m per season.

Yes, to compete at the very top you need to spend a lot of money, but to get to midtable, you needn't spend £150m in one window (as some are suggesting) and once the transfer policy is perfected (or as near as possible) you can compete at the upper reaches, while only making reasonable losses (Spurs, Everton, Liverpool).

Good players and good managers make good teams, but spending money is no guarantee of success (Sissoko cost Spurs £30m, who have good players, and a good manager) and a cheaper player isn't de facto worse (Kante cost Leicester £5.6m and just won player of the year).

Doberman said:
:lol: tremendous.

oh wait, you're being serious? :eek:

:lol:
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You were at the game then?

Bear said:
@The Fish loves bigging up Yedlin the game changer
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You've done it again Bear, you typed out something when really what you meant to type was "Hey, guess what everybody? I don't like Newcastle United."
 
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Brian Griffin said:
Even £70m doesn't buy them depth - or replace all the players they'd need to replace.

Anything other than signing players good enough to keep you up in season 1 is idiotic.

Look at how we fared signing N'Dong and Papa for £21m...we'd have been better off spending half of that on a Ryan Shawcross style player and centre midfielder better suited to a scrap.

They could stay up spending half of the £70m on the right players - or go down spending £70m on a 4 players who don't hit the ground running.

Just my opinion of course.
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I agree. £70m gets you 14 Daryl Murphys, not even a full Championship squad.

Any promoted team needs a decent core of existing players capable of cutting it in the Prem.
 
Read Soccernomics - it's not about how much you spend on transfers - it's how much you pay in wages.

Highest payers tend to win the league or be there/thereabouts.
 
£70m isn't actually that much these days.

they need to clear the decks too imo - players like Anita, Mitrovic, Colback, Hanley, Diame, Murphy etc clearly aren't good enough. (I would probably take Murphy back :lol: )
 
fletcher said:
£70m isn't actually that much these days.

they need to clear the decks too imo - players like Anita, Mitrovic, Colback, Hanley, Diame, Murphy etc clearly aren't good enough. (I would probably take Murphy back :lol: )
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Anita's away, Hanley is fine as a 4th choice CB, and Murphy has done the job he was bought for and will likely be moved on. Mitrovic is fine as a substitute/different option.

I'm pretty sure that £70m is substantially more than any other promoted club has spent in their first year in the top flight after promotion.

Brian Griffin said:
Doubt you'll be anywhere near the highest payers in the league like!
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I agree, Benitez will buy players to do the job and that job will likely be safety.

My point was that people are throwing huge sums around, like Newcastle United will need to spend more than some clubs market value on players just to make sure they don't go straight back down. Which is madness.
 
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The Fish said:
I admire your ambition. Safety would do for me, bonny lad.
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The top 7 is spot on so far:

http://www.totalsportek.com/money/english-premier-league-wage-bills-club-by-club/

Bottom 5 is spot on - barring Sunderland who over pay for what the achieve and rock up in mid table.

The Fish said:
I agree, Benitez will buy players to do the job and that job will likely be safety.

My point was that people are throwing huge sums around, like Newcastle United will need to spend more than some clubs market value on players just to make sure they don't go straight back down. Which is madness.
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You do need to spend more than most clubs IMO as your standard of player is generally terrible for the PL - one or two exceptions to that.

Perhaps saying 'spend more' is wrong - but you do need to bring in a lot of players, more so than most.
 
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