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the soft fuckers who sympathise with this kiddy fiddler make me sick. i hope you all get fucked by a gang of mags
 

rentaghost said:
What is there to disagree with the following statement:

Any decent person would just be happy that he was put away for what he did.

Any decent person would not sympathise with the length of a prison sentence because any decent person would not commit a crime like that in the first place.

What are people doing defending this bloke? If he got a couple of years extra so f***ing what?
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Why are you stealing peoples quotes and passing them off as your own?
 
Mackem DJ said:
Ridiculously harsh sentence. You hear stories in the press every week about people engaging in full on noncey activity, full sex with those underage etc who barely get a 3rd of the punishment.

That said, Hes a f***ing muppett for what he did do and how far he took things with this person.
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Exactly.
 
haway said:
Since you have gone to the trouble of posting this twice, I'll offer a reply.

1) "Any decent person would just be happy that he was put away for what he did." - I'm not sure why you think this. One aspect of our judicial system is making sure people who commit crimes are punished, sure. But there are other aspects such as proportionality and equity. Proportionality being that the sentence one is given should correspond to the crime, equity being that everyone in similar circumstances who commit the same offences should be treated and thus sentenced equally. You can be pleased that AJ was found out, arrested, prosecuted and (hopefully) prevented from offending again, and be pleased his victim has been vindicated and has justice. But you can still think that the offence he committed didn't warrant 6 years and that many others, in similar circumstances, would not have faced a comparable sentence.

So I just think it's bollocks to say "any decent person should just be happy he's been locked up" because there's more to British justice.

2) "Any decent person would not sympathise with the length of a prison sentence because any decent person would not commit a crime like that in the first place." - Again, unsure why you think this. The fact I would never groom a 15 year old, or would never commit a burglary, or never commit crimes X Y and Z doesn't mean I can't hold an opinion that a sentence is disproportionately long. You seem to somehow think that when I say he shouldn't have got 6 years, I'm somehow tacitly saying it was ok, or wasn't really serious. Quite the contrary - I was one of the main posters on here at the time when people were making slurs against the victim who was saying how it was wrong - an abuse of power etc. But the point of the judicial system isn't just to brand anyone who ever commits a crime a criminal and lock them up for as long as we fancy. And I just don't think 6 years was a necessary or appropriate sentence.

3) "What are people doing defending this bloke? If he got a couple of years extra so f***ing what?" - Not sure anyone is defending his crime. If they are, point them out and I'll call them a fuckwit. And it's all well and good saying "so what if he got an extra few years?" but these extra years cost society money. A lot of money. They also result, in the bigger picture, in more crime. They result in extra-stigmatisation and marginalisation of offenders. These are big issues in our society - our prisons are completely understaffed and overcrowded. This is resulting in people being locked up for 23 hours a day and when they get out they are so cooked up they're more likely to commit further crime. We need a prison system that takes repeat/ dangerous offenders and makes them safer/ less likely to offend. Sorry but giving him 6 years and the wasted resources that entails helps nobody.

There is a spectrum of sex offences. They are all *obviously* serious. But again, to repeat myself for the millionth time, I think within that scale of sex offences, this was not at the more serious end. It's still a sex offence and should be treated as such, but 6 years? Not for me.


:rolleyes:
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Why do you care?

Pelanty said:
Why are you stealing peoples quotes and passing them off as your own?
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I don't know how to use the quote option :oops:

Anyone who has read the thread would know where it came from. You could try answering it or the original for that matter.
 
jonny gently said:
It was certainly a lot harsher than a politician's or judge's son would have got but that's just how it has always worked. Even the rich working class by and large get hammered. No excuse for Johnson mind.
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I think his fame, access and influence over impressionable children will have more bearing on his sentence than his socioeconomic heritage.
 
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mad cyril said:
It astounds me how many people don't get this.
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Me anarl. Due to the proliferation of sexually related incidents involving footballers it's obvious the sentence was meant to make an example of him and serve as a warning to others.
 
The judge didnt have a choice on the length of his sentence. The sentencing guidelines and the relevant legislation for Johnsons crimes are very clear. They required the judge to impose the maximum sentence available which was 6 yrs. Changing his plea at the last minute didnt go down well with the judge either.
The law takes a very dim view of grooming and abuse of a position of trust and rightly so.
 
darkwingduck said:
the soft fuckers who sympathise with this kiddy fiddler make me sick. i hope you all get fucked by a gang of mags
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Lovely

rentaghost said:
What is there to disagree with the following statement:

Any decent person would just be happy that he was put away for what he did.

Any decent person would not sympathise with the length of a prison sentence because any decent person would not commit a crime like that in the first place.

What are people doing defending this bloke? If he got a couple of years extra so f***ing what?
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What a load of shite. Trying to get cheap shots in there because you don't agree with people who are disagreeing with the length of the sentence.
 
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rentaghost said:
Why do you care?



I don't know how to use the quote option :oops:

Anyone who has read the thread would know where it came from. You could try answering it or the original for that matter.
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I already replied to it mate last night I'm keeping out of this thread from now on it's going nowhere.
 
Goldeneye said:
The judge didnt have a choice on the length of his sentence. The sentencing guidelines and the relevant legislation for Johnsons crimes are very clear. They required the judge to impose the maximum sentence available which was 6 yrs. Changing his plea at the last minute didnt go down well with the judge either.
The law takes a very dim view of grooming and abuse of a position of trust and rightly so.
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This !
 
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