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Adam Johnson appeal

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Still can't believe he did it , what a f***ing idiot and scumbag , massive loss to the club as well , ability wise of course .
 
SPUFF said:
A lot of interesting reading in the guidelines here, it appears the judge had little choice in the length!...

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Doing my nut in, I`m certain I read on sentencing that as he`d pissed around court by pleading innocence for so long he lost any chance of early release!
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I think you're getting two things mixed up. One is the reduction in sentence for an early plea. If you plead guilty at the early stages (e.g. in the police station or at the first court hearing then you get 1/3 off your sentence (e.g. if AJ had pleaded guilty straight away he would have got 4 years as opposed to 6). This is to incentivise people not to waste the court's time. Then the closer you get to trial the less and less it is reduced, until the day of the trial, where if you plead then you get 1/10th off (this is all IIRC). But on the most serious charge AJ never pled guilty, and on the other two charges he only changed his plea at the last minute. Thus = no real discount.

That is a separate issue, though, from early release of prison when you behave well. The former relates to the length of sentence you get (e.g. it would have been 4 years), the latter is that you still have a 6 year sentence, but get released early.
 
SPUFF said:
A lot of interesting reading in the guidelines here, it appears the judge had little choice in the length!...

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Doing my nut in, I`m certain I read on sentencing that as he`d pissed around court by pleading innocence for so long he lost any chance of early release!
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Aye that's how I remember it. Because he lied and pleaded guilty on day one of the trial the victim had to endure being abused off people on the street/social media etc which is why the sentence was so long.
 
UTW said:
Agreed. 4 years for murder is an absolute joke and same with Hughes
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It wasn't murder though. It was death by dangerous driving while drunk IIRC. Very different, and while nobody on here (I presume) has ever come close to murdering someone, a lot will have driven drunk. It just takes one bit of bad luck to be the person who drunk drives and kills two people.

Not at all condoning him - obviously - but just saying that accidental death due to negligent behaviour is much, MUCH less serious than murder where you intend to kill or at least commit GBH.
 
haway said:
It wasn't murder though. It was death by dangerous driving while drunk IIRC. Very different, and while nobody on here (I presume) has ever come close to murdering someone, a lot will have driven drunk. It just takes one bit of bad luck to be the person who drunk drives and kills two people.

Not at all condoning him - obviously - but just saying that accidental death due to negligent behaviour is much, MUCH less serious than murder where you intend to kill or at least commit GBH.
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pre meditation is the key here.
 
Dappa said:
The sympathisers on here would think differently if it was their daughter I'm guessing
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Of course they would but that's not saying much. If I had a 16 year old daughter I'd want to kill any 20 year old bloke who slept with her (most likely I'd want to kill anyone who slept with her regardless of their age) even though the bloke wouldn't even be breaking the law. The fact you'd think differently about a sentence if your child was the victim doesn't imply that your current thinking is wrong, simply that people can't be objective where their own kids are involved.
 
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