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In the summer of 1971, Halifax Town were one place ahead of Villa is the final standings. The following season Villa averaged 32K back in Division 3 which was pretty impressive back then.

As expected, with such giants down in the the third tier they were back at the top of the table this time in 1971, with a a bit of a gap from the chasing pack (only 2 pts for a win) and they blew it.

The mighty Newcastle are not nailed on certainties for automatic promotion, especially of they lose this game in hand. I think they will still get promoted in the fashion of Boro last season, right down to the wire.

It might come down to injuries and their squad is one deficient in central midfield. Other squads have their own deficiencies and they could have a blip through missing players as well.
 

How do you define a big club? Attendances,trophies won,world wide support,recent history or over all history,spending power its an argument thats pointless everyone has their own idea about big clubs


Ask a lower league club or a non-league club who would they like to draw at home to get fans through the turnstiles. This gives a good idea. Drawing power counts.

It used to be a standing joke that every lower league team wanted Newcastle United. A big crowd and a good chance of winning. Now it is gone down, expected to beat Newcastle (in the Cup) like other smaller clubs have.

No youngster want to see Leeds anymore (SKY TV take note of the viewer numbers) as they are just a run of the mill Championship club without any star names.
 
Get in, a big club debate. These are mint.

I'm going to take this as counting as the second of the two match threads that would go up before kick-off after the first one at the weekend.
This ^ who seriously gives a fuck man all this constant bigger club talk is embarrassing

Can someone point me to the trophy you win if you are the bigger club.

I'm sure Leicester and Blackburn fans are devastated they aren't classed as big clubs as they watched their team lift the premier league trophy they must be so jealous of clubs like us and the mags
 
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A bit of perspective..."The Magpies have won six FA Cups - with their most recent in 1955 - but won the now defunct Inter-Cities Fairs Cup in 1969 and Intertoto Cup in 2006".

I'll accept the "Trade Fair can you be bothered turning up shield" as being of similar merit to the Intertoto, even if technically the Intertoto has more standing.

Putting it up against a European cup and a multiple of Fa cups, league Titles and league cups though as '1' to Villa - FFS that's a hat-trick and game over right there.
 
Smaller than both. Aston Villa means so much less to the people of Birmingham than the 2 NE clubs mean to their populations
Villa pull a large amount of their support from outside Birmingham, right across the midlands.

Before Sky and nouveau rich clubs like Chelsea and Man City came along , would put villa as the traditional 4th biggest club after Man U, Liverpool and Arsenal.
 
Would put them as 4th biggest club in England. Though while recognising their Victorian history its the more recent haul of trophies that elevate them above the rest. Even the early 80s title & European cup are fading into the distance for fans and it wont be long before Chelsea match their achievements.
 
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