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Who's still backing Moyes?

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HBSAFC said:
We never had a player to sell for £25m.

@1more Moyes was appointed 21 days before we played Man City first game of the season. Plenty time to sort transfers out though aye?
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Yes, and then the remainder of August. It worked out all-right from Ranieri the season before.
 

I am. I was desperately disappointed with his transfer business but since then stuff has come out that indicates it was much harder to get players in than I first realised, although I do think he could have done a bit better even with the restrictions

I was also disappointed with some of his selections, tactical setup and decisions but I think he has improved with this as he has learned more about the players he has available to him

I've warmed to him much more the last couple of months and think he could be the man to lead is through what is going to be a very difficult few years
 
Grammar Police said:
Bit early to be on the drink?



Inherited a squad that had lost 3 games hitherto that calendar year.
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He didnt though did he? You are forgetting the ten plus players shipped out in the Summer, between the end of last season and Moyes taking over. You are also thinking we had Yedlin and MVila, we didnt. So the squad was somewhere between 12 and 15 players lighter when he arrived.
 
Wylie Coyote said:
I am. I was desperately disappointed with his transfer business but since then stuff has come out that indicates it was much harder to get players in than I first realised, although I do think he could have done a bit better even with the restrictions

I was also disappointed with some of his selections, tactical setup and decisions but I think he has improved with this as he has learned more about the players he has available to him

I've warmed to him much more the last couple of months and think he could be the man to lead is through what is going to be a very difficult few years
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I'm in the same camp as you. I just can't see what the point would be at this point in getting a new man in. Yes - a new man may save us from relegation (Moyes still can), but I bet we would end up in a worse position afterwards. We need to finally keep a manager in place to provide stability. We know the club is a joke with recruitment, the whole system needs an overhaul. Moyes has made errors along the way, but I bet nobody can name a single manager in the past who hasn't.
 
HBSAFC said:
It was less than £30m and he had to use that to sign 10 players. Crystal Palace spent more on one player.

Amazes me how many of our fans are blaming Moyes whilst Ellis Short owns the club.
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You are criticising the owner, rather than the manager.
 
Adamoah said:
I'm in the same camp as you. I just can't see what the point would be at this point in getting a new man in. Yes - a new man may save us from relegation (Moyes still can), but I bet we would end up in a worse position afterwards. We need to finally keep a manager in place to provide stability. We know the club is a joke with recruitment, the whole system needs an overhaul. Moyes has made errors along the way, but I bet nobody can name a single manager in the past who hasn't.
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I was always of this opinion we needed to stick with someone I just thought it looked as if Moyes wasn't the man to stick with. Since earlier in the season I'm leaning more towards maybe he is the man to stick with. Fair enough we are still crap but with the amount of key players missing as we've had and the state of the squad I doubt many could have done much better

If we go down under Moyes but have put up a good enough fight then I think he should stay. Hopefully we somehow manage to save ourselves again like but I think this is going to be the hardest season to do it.
 
dangermows said:
He didnt though did he? You are forgetting the ten plus players shipped out in the Summer, between the end of last season and Moyes taking over. You are also thinking we had Yedlin and MVila, we didnt. So the squad was somewhere between 12 and 15 players lighter when he arrived.
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Who was any good from the 10 who left?

Sorry, can't remember.
 
I'm still backing him, and if this is to be the season we go down I hope we stick with him and see what he can do when getting his own side together 28th plenty of time to prepare.

That being said I've always said he deserves criticism. How much he can affect it I'm not sure but these capitulations (conceding 3 in a short period of time) are becoming far, far too common, as are basic defensive mistakes. Somehow he has to get them organised and hard to beat, even if it means selling one or two and bringing in replacements. I was at Burnley and it was a joke, Swansea similar, stoke the same. It's annoying when against good sides (other than arsenal and Everton like) we've competed quite well. That's my big complaint about him, but I'm nowhere near wanting him to leave over it
 
Moyes has a f***ing disastrous record here and has been pretty poor in his previous 2 appointments, but we have to keep him here because we've sacked/lost too many in the past apparently and we can't afford to sack the fucker. Had we not been in this predicament I doubt one SMB'r would be singing his virtues, he's very lucky not to get some stick, but that is down to his ready made excuse, provided to him by his countryman, whilst ignoring the shite he has brought in. We are stuck with The Krankies unfortunately
 
HBSAFC said:
£18m - which at the time was a poor offer considering someone like John Stones went for £47m(?) Moyes was right to turn it down. They'd have been uproar if we'd sold him in the summer.



Yes, the owner is the problem at the club.
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18m was the first offer.
Palace sold their best player for 25m, we didn't sell one of our better players for 20m. Palace bought a 30m striker with that money and you keep telling us that. We only bought a 13.5m player.

Palace spent 8m net, we've spent 17m net.
Short is at fault for not spending 50m as opposed to Palace's 8m?
 
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Grammar Police said:
Who was any good from the 10 who left?

Sorry, can't remember.
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Not many, but they were used during the season and needed replacing. Imagine who we would be playing now if we hadn't opted for numbers. Be a pre match raffle to make the numbers up :lol:

Moyes has made mistakes and people have plenty of ammo to fire but it's daft when people say he took over from where we left off.
 
I'm backing Moyes . We need experience, stability and togetherness and he is our best bet of continuity and steady development. He just needs backing by the board , some luck with sales of shite players/personalities and a couple of wins to get the fans back on board.
 
raven_5 said:
18m was the first offer.
Palace sold their best player for 25m, we didn't sell one of our better players for 20m. Palace bought a 30m striker with that money and you keep telling us that. We only bought a 13.5m player.

Palace spent 8m net, we've spent 17m net.
Short is at fault for not spending 50m as opposed to Palace's 8m?
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Palace net spend a lot more than that I think.

Our spend was for 10 players, £1.7m per player if your numbers are right. That's pitiful. If Short had ran the club properly in the past we'd actually have money to spend.
 
HBSAFC said:
Whats Ranieri got to do with it?
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The fact he joined Leicester at virtually the same time of year as Moyes joined Sunderland. You know, too late into the transfer window and little time to prepare for the season. Mind, you never heard anyone mention it when he took Leicester to the league title. Thinking about it, maybe it isn't that much of a handicap after all.
 
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