Lewberry pie
Striker
I don't think he's been poor, just not what the mags think he is.
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#StayAndros
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Won la Liga in 2002
Got to the Champions League final with Liverpool in 2007
Won the Europa League with Chelsea in 2013
Looks 'mediocre to poor' to me. Yes, he hasn't performed to the level expected recently but you can't brush over other stuff and paint him as 'one night wonder'.
phunboy
Winger
He looked mediocre to me as well at the end of last season
Ceverton
Winger
2002 I covered he did well, I was saying after 2004.
2007 a cup competition again whilst failing in the league
won europa cup, well done, it wasnt his team and yet again a cup competition.
Napoli and Inter didnt look mediocre I agree, it was abysmal.
Only had 10 games against worse squads on paper and only played 2 top 10 teams, poor bloke never stood a chance.
You didn't, you said 'in 2004', then after that. You isolated 2004 then discussed post that date.
They finished 3rd in the league in 2007, hardly failing imo.
'It wasn't his team'
Surely that should be deserving of more praise then, adapting his playing style to suit players not of his own design?
Lewberry pie
Striker
Winning the Europa league with Chelsea is underperforming.
To little to late...mentally weak team ...no backbone. Just glad he didn't have a chance to buy any players to find if he was any good or not
Ceverton
Winger
Sorry, before and including 2004 he did well in the league, failed every other season with teams he managed in the league.You didn't, you said 'in 2004'.
They finished 3rd in the league in 2007, hardly failing imo.
'It wasn't his team'
They should have won the league in 2007 til bottling it.
Tbf not his own team is when he does best because when he signs his own players they are f***ing shite, he has bought the odd good player who is already established, but the rest is terrible.
Bear
Striker
Yet he ends up at you's while other top managers keep on getting top jobs
. This time last year he was sending Ronaldo a Usb stick with footage of how to lose his marker better ... Wonder if he still has it handy for Dwight Gayle
Ceverton
Winger
I wish he did
I am glad Rafa is spending their parachute money. His transfer dealings other than the odd Torres, Mascherano (already established players anyway) have been attrocious.
He tried to get rid of Xabi Alonso for Gareth Barry at Liverpool, lets only hope he doesnt get rid of Jack Colback for a Brentford holding midfielderYet he ends up at you's while other top managers keep on getting top jobs
Lewberry pie
Striker
No ya div, but Chelsea's squad would expect to do well in a competition like that, they're in the Europe's elite competing against clubs who are not on their level of spending power.
Wut. Doing the best he could possibly do in a competition is underperforming?
And they did, so it's 'par' at worst. Hardly under-performing, they won the thing. Literally the best result he could have achieved.
I wish he did
I am glad Rafa is spending their parachute money. His transfer dealings other than the odd Torres, Mascherano (already established players anyway) have been attrocious.
He tried to get rid of Xabi Alonso for Gareth Barry at Liverpool, lets only hope he doesnt get rid of Jack Colback for a Brentford holding midfielder
Tbf I have no idea who Brentford's holding midfielder is but I'd do a straight swap today.
Yet he ends up at you's while other top managers keep on getting top jobs
Hopefully Bear lad.
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Harbour Boy
Winger
I'm getting so many bites on twitter
Lewberry pie
Striker
They must have been knocked out of the champions league though?
He wasn't in charge then. He took over late November when they had already been all-but eliminated.
He won his only game for Chelsea 6-1 (against Nordsjaelland).
phunboy
Winger
Weve done much more with the same and less time with managers that have a lot less of a pedigree. Dont buy this didnt have enough time he had a good enough squad with the run in he had. Instead he lost to Norwich drew with both us and one of the worst teams the premier league has ever seen. After the swansea citeh, liverpool and palace results they should have destroyed villa but he/they blew it
A lot of the players were/are gutless though with no fight in them. Every time you have survived recently a key component in it has been the work rate and desire of your players, you have that in spades and that wasn't replicated with the majority of our players.
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