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'Gini' sold by the scum?

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samsafc said:
Yeah that what's key, despite 9 consecutive seasons I still don't even feel we have established ourselves due to constant relegation battles. Think that will change this season with Sam
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Hopefully mate, too many getting over confident like last season and the year before. All the pundits are always wrong tho for predicting relegation battles :lol:
 

The Fish said:
Struggling to read this to be honest, but I think you're saying that Sunderland AFC is not relegation threatened? Not to pick at a wound, but you've fought (successfully) against relegation for the majority of the last 10 seasons haven't you? I think it's reasonable for people to view Sunderland as relegation threatened. It may not be wholly accurate as it doesn't take Allardyce into account, but most neutrals/casual observers would surely view you as a side that is often relegation threatened?
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I know mate typing on my phone is a nightmare ha.
Basically it's stupid to say Townsend wouldn't leave Newcastle for Sunderland due to relegation issues despite yous been a yo-yo club with 2 relegations in 7 year and us having none.
 
samsafc said:
I know mate typing on my phone is a nightmare ha.
Basically it's stupid to say Townsend wouldn't leave Newcastle for Sunderland due to relegation issues despite yous been a yo-yo club with 2 relegations in 7 year and us having none.
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Well, I don't think it's stupid at all. Whatever Allardyce manages, it's more likely than not that Sunderland will end the 2016/17 season in the bottom half of the table. If Townsend is to leave Newcastle he'd more likely join Swansea, Everton, or their ilk, teams who're more likely to finish 16/17 around 10th. Despite pulling off miraculous survival after miraculous survival, you're still a team that neutrals would consider at threat of relegation.
 
The Fish said:
Struggling to read this to be honest, but I think you're saying that Sunderland AFC is not relegation threatened? Not to pick at a wound, but you've fought (successfully) against relegation for the majority of the last 10 seasons haven't you? I think it's reasonable for people to view Sunderland as relegation threatened. It may not be wholly accurate as it doesn't take Allardyce into account, but most neutrals/casual observers would surely view you as a side that is often relegation threatened?
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After 2 recent relegations and a last day survival I'd imagine it's reasonable for people to view Newcastle in the same way.
 
The Fish said:
Nope :lol: had Boro to win the league and Brighton to come up via the play-offs.

The point was that you don't have to feign indifference to maintain cachet amongst your peers.
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Football has a way of kicking you in the teeth when you least expect it, yous may walk the league but i wouldnt be over confident (im sure you arent). Yous are there to be shot at have you the players to be mentally prepared for that off last years showing if it was us with your players i wouldnt be so sure?
 
The Fish said:
Well, I don't think it's stupid at all. Whatever Allardyce manages, it's more likely than not that Sunderland will end the 2016/17 season in the bottom half of the table. If Townsend is to leave Newcastle he'd more likely join Swansea, Everton, or their ilk, teams who're more likely to finish 16/17 around 10th. Despite pulling off miraculous survival after miraculous survival, you're still a team that neutrals would consider at threat of relegation.
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Didn't Townsend recently join a relegation threatened club that had only just avoided relegation the previous season?
 
The Fish said:
Well, I don't think it's stupid at all. Whatever Allardyce manages, it's more likely than not that Sunderland will end the 2016/17 season in the bottom half of the table. If Townsend is to leave Newcastle he'd more likely join Swansea, Everton, or their ilk, teams who're more likely to finish 16/17 around 10th. Despite pulling off miraculous survival after miraculous survival, you're still a team that neutrals would consider at threat of relegation.
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If he moved to Newcastle he would certainly move to Sunderland, to say otherwise is stupid.
Like I've said in a previous post I still don't even feel we have established ourselves due to constant relegation battles but I do think that will change this season.
 
Coeus said:
Aye but they're a f***ing masserve club Reiver man. Yus divent undertsnad man, like.
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I can't remember many massive clubs queuing up for him last window tbh.

Getting out of the 2nd division may be all he's looking for ............ he certainly has very little loyalty to Newcastle.

There's no chance of this 'England' thing going any further.
 
Reiver said:
After 2 recent relegations and a last day survival I'd imagine it's reasonable for people to view Newcastle in the same way.
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They may well... Thought we were discussing the likelihood of Townsend swapping Newcastle for Sunderland? Or was this one of your many efforts to try and have a dig at Newcastle? I wouldn't let us bother you mate, you stayed up, you should focus on what's good about your club, rather than the trials and tribulations of my own?
 
The Fish said:
They may well... Thought we were discussing the likelihood of Townsend swapping Newcastle for Sunderland? Or was this one of your many efforts to try and have a dig at Newcastle? I wouldn't let us bother you mate, you stayed up, you should focus on what's good about your club, rather than the trials and tribulations of my own?
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It's a thread about 'Gini' man :lol:

Or is every discussion about Newcastle directed by you alone?
 
The Fish said:
They may well... Thought we were discussing the likelihood of Townsend swapping Newcastle for Sunderland? Or was this one of your many efforts to try and have a dig at Newcastle? I wouldn't let us bother you mate, you stayed up, you should focus on what's good about your club, rather than the trials and tribulations of my own?
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Cant enjoy this thread, knowing you won relegation. :(
 
Wierd Valley Mackem said:
Football has a way of kicking you in the teeth when you least expect it, yous may walk the league but i wouldnt be over confident (im sure you arent). Yous are there to be shot at have you the players to be mentally prepared for that off last years showing if it was us with your players i wouldnt be so sure?
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Same was said about our players last time we were down there. But after the summer (and a shellacking at Leyton Orient) the deadwood and gutless were gone and the team that strolled to promotion was fine. I see similar happening this time.

Reiver said:
Didn't Townsend recently join a relegation threatened club that had only just avoided relegation the previous season?
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He did and that's a fair point, you have to ask then, why did he join Newcastle? He'll not have had much of a pay rise to join us, if any at all, he certainly got the 1st team place he was after, and perhaps he saw the players at the club and figured we should have enough to get out of the trouble?

samsafc said:
If he moved to Newcastle he would certainly move to Sunderland, to say otherwise is stupid.
Like I've said in a previous post I still don't even feel we have established ourselves due to constant relegation battles but I do think that will change this season.
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I think you will be much more secure, but I don't think you'll shrug off your reputation for being a relegation threatened side for at least another season.
 
The Fish said:
He did and that's a fair point, you have to ask then, why did he join Newcastle? He'll not have had much of a pay rise to join us, if any at all, he certainly got the 1st team place he was after, and perhaps he saw the players at the club and figured we should have enough to get out of the trouble?
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There you go ....... it was hardly to join a relegation battle with a rotten manager.
 
Reiver said:
It's a thread about 'Gini' man :lol:

Or is every discussion about Newcastle directed by you alone?
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This post is the first one in which you mention Gini.

Do you have ADHD? That's not a criticism, it just seems you can't focus on one subject at a time.
 
The Fish said:
Same was said about our players last time we were down there. But after the summer (and a shellacking at Leyton Orient) the deadwood and gutless were gone and the team that strolled to promotion was fine. I see similar happening this time.


He did and that's a fair point, you have to ask then, why did he join Newcastle? He'll not have had much of a pay rise to join us, if any at all, he certainly got the 1st team place he was after, and perhaps he saw the players at the club and figured we should have enough to get out of the trouble?


I think you will be much more secure, but I don't think you'll shrug off your reputation for being a relegation threatened side for at least another season.
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I think yous had a bit more bite in your team last time. Your Team were gutless this season (even the most biased Mag has to have seen that) they hd talent but when the chips were down they had no fight in them. You may be right though Benitez may get something out of them he failed to get this year? A good start you probably will walk it lose a few who knows?
 
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