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Rafael Benítez

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watersedge said:
They'll piss that league but that's of no concern to us surely
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not Gaurenteed, even with footballs Don Quixote at at the helm
Villa will invest big and so will Norwich both of whom could be as well funded as the mags
next villa manager will be crucial, get somebody in with good championship pedigree and the mags could be in trouble
the common perception is the mags will retain most of the better players (not convinced)
 
GBSAFC said:
not Gaurenteed, even with footballs Don Quixote at at the helm
Villa will invest big and so will Norwich both of whom could be as well funded as the mags
next villa manager will be crucial, get somebody in with good championship pedigree and the mags could be in trouble
the common perception is the mags will retain most of the better players (not convinced)
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Norwich also have experience of coming straight back up.
 
GBSAFC said:
not Gaurenteed, even with footballs Don Quixote at at the helm
Villa will invest big and so will Norwich both of whom could be as well funded as the mags
next villa manager will be crucial, get somebody in with good championship pedigree and the mags could be in trouble
the common perception is the mags will retain most of the better players (not convinced)
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I thought the consensus was that Newcastle will sell everyone of any worth?

janey said:
Norwich also have experience of coming straight back up.
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So do Newcastle.
 
The Fish said:
I thought the consensus was that Newcastle will sell everyone of any worth?


So do Newcastle.
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depends on whom you talk to.
logically, given the reduction in revenue, costs saving have to be made. additionally many player will not want to playing in the championship, IF there is a club willing to offer them football at a higher level. Agents will of course force the players to consider a move, as cash is king and the agents will score on another move. If Benitez stays, or whoever comes in there is no doubt that they will want to rebuild, just a matter of who and when.
so be that as it may, it would be stupid to think that there will be little or no change.
managing these changes, is a real problem.


consider this, if Rafa doesn't sign (each passing day increases that risk)... who is the next option
i think its Warnock; who do you think it is
 
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GBSAFC said:
depends on whom you talk to.
logically, given the reduction in revenue, costs saving have to be made. additionally many player will not want to playing in the championship, IF there is a club willing to offer them football at a higher level. Agents will of course force the players to consider a move, as cash is king and the agents will score on another move. If Benitez stays, or whoever comes in there is no doubt that they will want to rebuild, just a matter of who and when.
so be that as it may, it would be stupid to think that there will be little or no change.
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I wouldn't be surprised to see the same kind of changing of the guard we saw last time. The worst offenders will likely be off as long as the figures we're offered match Ashley's minimum valuation. There's talk that we won't accept a loss on Wijnaldum, but I cannot believe that's the case. c£15m on a goal scoring midfielder isn't too much, but his gutless performances will put a few people off certainly at that price.

There's quotes of c£10m for Janmaat?? That's madness, we'd be lucky to get £7m! I'm expecting Sissoko to go for North of £10m, ditto Wijnaldum, just shy of £10m for Krul, £5-7m for Janmaat, <£5m for Cisse & the same for Tiote. We might offload players like Riviere and Gouffran, but it'll be for buttons. If Townsend's camp U-turns and he goes it'll be for £8m

c£50-60m from player sales to be reinvested and a spine of Elliot/Darlow, Lascelles/Mbemba/Dummett/Colo, Haidara, Colback/Anita/Shelvey, Townsend/Aarons, de Jong/Perez/Mitrovic/Perez. That spine has weaknesses that needs addressing (FBs, CM, depth on the flank) but with the money we get from sales we should be canny.

Plus Rafa? That's why we're confident of bouncing straight back up.
 
GBSAFC said:
depends on whom you talk to.
logically, given the reduction in revenue, costs saving have to be made. additionally many player will not want to playing in the championship, IF there is a club willing to offer them football at a higher level. Agents will of course force the players to consider a move, as cash is king and the agents will score on another move. If Benitez stays, or whoever comes in there is no doubt that they will want to rebuild, just a matter of who and when.
so be that as it may, it would be stupid to think that there will be little or no change.
managing these changes, is a real problem.


consider this, if Rafa doesn't sign (each passing day increases that risk)... who is the next option
i think its Warnock; who do you think it is
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Looks like Pearson isn't getting the Villa job. I hope the mags don't get him
 
The Fish said:
I wouldn't be surprised to see the same kind of changing of the guard we saw last time. The worst offenders will likely be off as long as the figures we're offered match Ashley's minimum valuation. There's talk that we won't accept a loss on Wijnaldum, but I cannot believe that's the case. c£15m on a goal scoring midfielder isn't too much, but his gutless performances will put a few people off certainly at that price.

There's quotes of c£10m for Janmaat?? That's madness, we'd be lucky to get £7m! I'm expecting Sissoko to go for North of £10m, ditto Wijnaldum, just shy of £10m for Krul, £5-7m for Janmaat, <£5m for Cisse & the same for Tiote. We might offload players like Riviere and Gouffran, but it'll be for buttons. If Townsend's camp U-turns and he goes it'll be for £8m

c£50-60m from player sales to be reinvested and a spine of Elliot/Darlow, Lascelles/Mbemba/Dummett/Colo, Haidara, Colback/Anita/Shelvey, Townsend/Aarons, de Jong/Perez/Mitrovic/Perez. That spine has weaknesses that needs addressing (FBs, CM, depth on the flank) but with the money we get from sales we should be canny.

Plus Rafa? That's why we're confident of bouncing straight back up.
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Plus Rafa? A bloke that has zero experience of that league I'd see that as a huge question mark if I were a mag.
 
The Fish said:
I wouldn't be surprised to see the same kind of changing of the guard we saw last time. The worst offenders will likely be off as long as the figures we're offered match Ashley's minimum valuation. There's talk that we won't accept a loss on Wijnaldum, but I cannot believe that's the case. c£15m on a goal scoring midfielder isn't too much, but his gutless performances will put a few people off certainly at that price.

There's quotes of c£10m for Janmaat?? That's madness, we'd be lucky to get £7m! I'm expecting Sissoko to go for North of £10m, ditto Wijnaldum, just shy of £10m for Krul, £5-7m for Janmaat, <£5m for Cisse & the same for Tiote. We might offload players like Riviere and Gouffran, but it'll be for buttons. If Townsend's camp U-turns and he goes it'll be for £8m

c£50-60m from player sales to be reinvested and a spine of Elliot/Darlow, Lascelles/Mbemba/Dummett/Colo, Haidara, Colback/Anita/Shelvey, Townsend/Aarons, de Jong/Perez/Mitrovic/Perez. That spine has weaknesses that needs addressing (FBs, CM, depth on the flank) but with the money we get from sales we should be canny.

Plus Rafa? That's why we're confident of bouncing straight back up.
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And saying north of £10m for Spineless Sissoko is why we think you, as a fanbase, are deluded :rolleyes:

Also Townsend has an £8m release clause, he'll never be there next season.
 
Billy2Sheds said:
You do realise there is a load of managers who've had no experience in that league and got promoted straight away?


That's probably because he said he was going to decide in a couple of weeks
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There's way more that had experience of that league who won it, it's a totally different challenge every single manager alway comments on what a tough league it is to get out of.
 
Mackemansj1 said:
There's way more that had experience of that league who won it, it's a totally different challenge every single manager alway comments on what a tough league it is to get out of.
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They are hardly going to say it's easy, are they? That would be a touch disrespectful.
 
GBSAFC said:
not Gaurenteed, even with footballs Don Quixote at at the helm
Villa will invest big and so will Norwich both of whom could be as well funded as the mags
next villa manager will be crucial, get somebody in with good championship pedigree and the mags could be in trouble
the common perception is the mags will retain most of the better players (not convinced)
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Brighton will 'go again', Derby will appoint a new manager and may continue throwing money at it, Mick Mac always has a good season in him at that level, who knows with QPR after a season to consolidate and a preseason for JFH to prepare them.

So far from a foregone conclusion. They'll still be the favourites, mind that can bring its own pressures.
 
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