Adam Johnson Trial Verdict

[GordonMuchallNo1Fan]

I thought that was just my iPad or me Internet playing up, glad it's not just me. Your right though it's pathetic.

They have taken a lot of stick since they posted that front page letter. They have deleted several discussions about it and have been removing comments from other discussions that are negative towards the echo.

 

[shepherd88]

Linky?

Nope, he pleaded not guilty.

He pleaded guilty to kissing the girl.

 

[ollie c]

They have taken a lot of stick since they posted that front page letter. They have deleted several discussions about it and have been removing comments from other discussions that are negative towards the echo.

I noticed that. Have they not got the strength of their convictions?

 

[rentaghost]

So why didn't they sack him then, when it was highly unlikely he wouldn't play again before the trial, going into a transfer window where it was well documented we were hamstrung by financial fair play but could have sacked a player on £60, 000 a week and replaced him. Why didn't we sack him then instead of waiting and sacking him immediately he pleads guilty in the middle of a season when we can't replace him. Doesn't make much sense really does it?

What are you suggesting Janey? You are looking into what / if scenarios. What are you arguing against? SAFC were given police interviews where Johnson admitted knowing the age of the girl when kissing her and they are given the content of all the text messages. Its fact, undeniable (and it hasn't of course by SAFC) and the account of one of the most established and well though of QC's in the country.

Asking why SAFC didn't sack him is a question only they can answer but it doesn't alter anything else.

 

[shepherd88]

Barristers don't testify whether sworn or otherwise

Neither can they knowingly lie in court.

 

[The Master]

That's the 1,000,000th time that reply has been made. Tell us what will shut you up?

Tbf he's only replying to someone who misinterpreted something.

 

[janey]

Incredible really that some people would clutch to straws that the legal team of a professional organisation would choose not to read 800+ text messages, transcripts and interviews that were given to them where their own player admits to kissing a year 10 girl when knowing her age. They are absolutely duty bound to pour through every bit of what they were given because they know that ignorance is not an excuse.

However you probably know that anyway

She said she handed them over immediately, even the speediest reader in the world would struggle to read all of those documents if they handed them over immediately. See this is part of the problem, people picking out only bits of the information to suit their agenda while not accepting the bits of information that don't suit their agenda.
That's not aimed at you directly by the way, and I've said myself I have no idea of the truth of the matter because I wasn't there as was nobody on this board.
But in not being there and in there being so many uncertainties on both sides of the debate I'm willing to give the club the benefit of the doubt, rather than the bloke that has systematically lied for a year and who has now been found guilty of sex offences against a child.

 

[Cockney Mackem]

I think it comes from the prison officers term Not On Normal Communal Exercise.

I believe that might be a backronym where the name already existed and someone's tried to fit initials to it

 

[janey]

Neither can they knowingly lie in court.

I don't remember saying he'd lied, quite the opposite, that doesn't mean they can't be economical with the truth to suit their argument.

 

[redgauntlet]

Probably when others stop posting 'we couldn't have sacked him'.

But he wasn't sacked and he got a very nice goal against the local rivals, that's all the great majority care about. Are you whiter than white or black and white?

 

[Purrfect South]

Absolutely. My view, old fashioned as it may be, when I first heard of this was what on earth was he doing sniffing about in the first place? when he has a pregnant girlfriend.

Loads of men cheat on their pregnant partners. Yet another sad fact of life, and far more likely to happen, than you'd think.

 

[Mrjardine]

Wow, still people defending the club. Wonder how far wed have to go before people actually accepted the club had done something wrong.

This all day long.
The funny thing is those who are protesting the innocence of the club and not wishing to comment until they fully know the facts (the QCs remarks and fact sunderland never refuted them seemingly not being enough to convince some) are the same ones who'd be whooping and hollering from the rooftops if this was our nearest and dearest rivals in this situation.
It's an awful situation and the club just haven't helped themselves it seems.

 

[Dogbark]

Incredible really that some people would clutch to straws that the legal team of a professional organisation would choose not to read 800+ text messages, transcripts and interviews that were given to them where their own player admits to kissing a year 10 girl when knowing her age. They are absolutely duty bound to pour through every bit of what they were given because they know that ignorance is not an excuse.

However you probably know that anyway

Only in your mind marra.

Do you understand the concept of legitimacy?

 

[redgauntlet]

Tbf he's only replying to someone who misinterpreted something.

He's a total misinterpretation in himself and he's not the only one.

 

[janey]

I know this because I used to watch Margaret Lockwood in " Crown Court".
(maybe showing my age, mind)

I used to love it too, loved it when I was off school poorly snuggled under a blanket on the settee watching that. I'm showing me age too

 

[Useless at Roker]

If anything this case shows that while it's fine for our kids to be admiring a footballers skills on the pitch we should be discouraging hero worship of them and encouraging them to idolise people more worthy of their admiration.

The use of the word

What emotional attachment, what the fuck are you mumbling on about.
The world has gone crazy.

To SAFC

 

[janey]

They have taken a lot of stick since they posted that front page letter. They have deleted several discussions about it and have been removing comments from other discussions that are negative towards the echo.

I've just tweeted Chris Young to be fair he replied but it's been re-tweeted a few times and has also got some support. So far I think the tweets are still there.

 

[Purrfect South]

I don't remember saying he'd lied, quite the opposite, that doesn't mean they can't be economical with the truth to suit their argument.

There's no way that a clever QC plays the game fairly. Its what sets them apart from the less successful ones, and why they can charge such huge fees..

 

[Hair Flick]

He pleaded guilty to kissing the girl.

I think he may be referring to the initial court case last year, though I must admit I've not followed this case particularly closely, nor am I any kind of legal expert.

 

[Jackal]

I disagree the press want a story they will keep going the more response they get. It's very unlikely to be a simple answer.

Surely it's a simply denial or yes they did in fact have the information?